You can retire. Q: Can you tell me about the ghost in that house? She was great because she would know. Sign up for NYPAP mailings and our Newsletter to stay up-to-date. And I went from room to room and it took me a couple of years, didnt it? And the last time I went there, there was all houses built in it. I found these here on Staten Island in somebodys basement! Hes the man that built the house. Then upstairs, was all the bedrooms. I said, Well, the only one I know that talked like that is Bess Seguine. She said, Well, this is me. I said, What is it, Bess? She said, I want you to come and save my house. I said, Are you kidding, Bess? I said, as a kid growing up, we were always down on the beach, looking back up at this big white house that looked like a big Southern mansion. They were all along the waterfront here. Because back when they built the houses, kitchens were never built in the house. Then I went looking for the big pieces. Ill tell you the good stuff! [laughs] And that was it. If you want to come, behave yourselves. Daller: But when you got it, it really was in need of repair. Im going to get gifts now because Im staying in the house and Im going to fix it up.. And I gave that, I thinkI dont know if I gave it to Bess. That was the most beautiful mansion. So it just became a moot point. But the one that I remember was a great big brooch. And the porch went all like this, around the house. And I got a big certificate for saving that. And the basement was beautiful, where you can walk out onto the porch and out into the garden. Burke: Chris will stay living here. Yes. And a friend of mine I was very good friendly with was John. Q: Thank you for that story. Burke: Oh, when I bought the house, everybody told me, Oh, what are you buying that old crap for? Well, I didnt say I bought it because I got it practically for nothing because they couldnt get rid of it. I cant think of the name of the thing now. And that was the Air Force. Q: And so when you were deciding what to collect, were you thinking about. Burke is joined in this interview by his niece, Linda Daller. By Carol Ann Benanti | benanti@siadvance.com STATEN ISLAND, N.Y. -- It's designated one of Staten Island's signature society events of the year, a. But because I was military, the military shippedwhen they moved me, they moved all my stuff. They tear down one house and build five. So I said, The hell with this. I was born on Oct. 11, 1930, one of nine siblings, to an. Do you remember that? I loved them too. Leave a sympathy message to the family in the guestbook on this memorial page of George Burke to show support. Because we went to about every Air Force base in Europe there was, and I got around to see everything. And when youd come down, there wasthe stairwell come down, and it was a double parlor, like this, and where this door was, was with two double doors. And I wish the hell I could have gotten a hold of that before they tore it down. Special thanks to The Peggy N and Roger G Gerry Charitable Trust for their support to complete this initiative. Then she got to the point where she couldnt keep it anymore. So my sister Bess said, Well, come on, lets go to Florida. Sell the other half to Billthat was my brother and you and George, move with me to Florida. So we all thought that was a great idea. Now, this is a portrait of Joseph Seguine. My sisterher mother [indicates Daller], Francesmy sister living in the Bronx, she got me a little apartment and she got me a job working for Saks Fifth Avenue. And one day. Like there was old Greek, like the Parthenon, the Greek templesoh, it was beautiful. Thanks very much to you. All these walls used to be white. And he had helped meyou know, while I had my own ideas for design, and whatever I thought of, he said, George, thats great. Yes, the dining room and the kitchen was on the other two, side. I didnt know they were lilacs, but I could smell something pretty. And my sister, Bess, she was married to Walter, her husband, who was in the Navy. But not long ago, I was talking about it. Its still there. And I had to laugh. And it was actually three stories high. Burke: And Im leaving everything thats in the houseits staying. I know everything, what to do. I had all the plasters done. Q: What grabbed your eye? Its empty. Burke: So, in other words, fifty years from now, if someone wants to learn about the house, they can find out. Q: Yes, absolutely. I said, No, no, no. Its still that way. I cant think ofdoesnt matter, the name of the people. You want to have someone living in it, you cant have an empty house. Burke: Hawaii. Q: Is there somebody in particular that you work with for reupholstery or restorations? Come here, Marge. I said, What? They said, Sell this goddamn place. Burke: I dont find any difference living here. Burke: Right across the creek. I need to get someone in to do a good cleaning on the house, someone to take care of maintaining it. And the post is still there and the staircase is still in good shapebut thats still in the house, now, down there. Find an obituary, get service details, leave condolence messages or send flowers or gifts in memory of a loved one. And here was the street. Oh, we were crabbing. Are you still interested? And I said, Well, of course I am. I probably gave it to Bess. See Photos. Take a walk. I said, No, no, Im gonna save this house. He said, Oh! The fact that the Seguine familythis was the farmhouse, their mansion was in Rossvilleand thats long gone. Oh shit, Im going to have to rebuild the wall. So I started pulling the bricks out, and wrapped up where one of the bricks was, was an oil cloth rag all wrapped up. Q: So its budgets and the contractors, all that stuff. Q: Can you give me an example of one of the things that you worked on together in the house? Q: Well, tell me about getting started on this house. But some strange things did happen in the house. And I dont like this. And shed go to her father and her father and say, You know, George, shes my daughter, and this and thatand I said, Yes, well, John, let me tell you something. Then I got shipped to Europe. Burke: Yes. And the house across the street from it, the Old [Sir Walter] Tyrrell House. So she was always, Come on, George. Most of the furniture thats hereI never furnished the house until I owned it. And I want somebody to take care of it. Yes, but it was weird. But how many people really have a sense of history anymore? Youd have to see the house to see what Im talking about. But big stuff like couches and chairs and that kind of thing. And I took that for years. From last time I saw it, it looked like it needed a bulldozer! She said, No, no, no. She said, you can save it. And I said, well, Im going to retire. My sister, Frances, got me a nice little apartment in the Bronx, right next to her. Burke: It was. The house is haunted, she said, if youre interested in it, George, heres the key to the front door, you go. And as I said, there was a big flight of stairs that went up and a big porch across the whole front of the house. So they said, You better get back here and do something. So I came back, got out of the military, got a job working for Saks Fifth Avenue. And as you see it today was from me doing all those little things. GEORGE CROAKE OBITUARY. Some kind of jewelry. Visitation will be held on April 24, 2015 at 2:00 pm at Casey Funeral Home, 350 Slosson Ave, Staten Island, NY. Syracuse. Troy. If you lived in Alaska, where it was always cold, it was fine. Where were you stationed and what was it like? Big fluted columns with big Corinthian capitals on them. Burke: Yes, and I had a beautiful apartment for years in St. George. Served in NYPD for 25 years, ran many mararthons George Arthur Croake, 78, of Manasquan, NJ (previously Flatbush, Brooklyn & New Dorp, Staten Island) passed away peacefully . George Burke was born on Staten Island and grew up in Annandale before moving to Florida with his family. So I just grew up with it, knowing it. He was incurring all the expenses. But they did a lot for me. Its Meissen. They cant develop it. And I said, Oh, shit. Dont remember what happened to it, right? Off of Hylan Boulevard? And a couple of my friends came as bartenders for me. Q: When you were making those decisions about decorating, were you thinking about a particular style, like a historic style, that you were going for? Get service details, leave condolence messages or send flowers in memory of a loved one in New York. And all these houses would never here! And you would have been taxed in this country if it was already like that. Right across the creek. Daller: Thats been acquired over the years. Daller: Thats a story you should share, about the lilacs and the lady. After Burke returned to Staten Island, he purchased and restored two houses and an old restaurant and bar before he was contacted by Bess Seguine in 1981, who had inherited the then-deteriorated Seguine Mansion. Daller: It just went right out of my head! And all this beautiful stuff, I used to put in a big box. The ceilings had fallen down because a lot of the drain pipes had leaked. So, I dont know. And that way, it wouldnt burn the houses down. Burke: What its been like for you to live here. Got a good price for a couple of other real estate pieces that I bought and fixed up and sold. The whole family kind ofand the ladies got too old, and they decided they were going to move and go live inI think Georgia or Virginia, I forgot. They couldnt handle it, the clientele that came in. I thought for sure that would never go. And the backyard is beautiful. I had just bought this house, and it needed a lot of work. But I had all that money! Lots of photos, costs, everything. Burke: Well, I hope it gets maintained. They cant do anything. Put a candle right in the middle of that floor and go take a walk. [laughs] He called it the one-candle house. Who Where Receive obituaries Yenula Hennaka February 24, 2023 So I took that out of the brick and I got some cement, put it all back in, put the wall back up. You werent allowed to buy much because it was worth a fortune over there to the general public, to the British. Q: Andif this is something that you cant discuss, let me knowbut, for example, if you decide to repaint, like you did in this room, is that something that the board fundraises for? Just landmarked. Was her name Mackey? You cant ride on the street. Burke: Well, the house, actually, from the outside, is aoh, shitthe name of it went right out of my head. . Theyre going out for the garbage. I said, No, no, no, Im trying to take them. So I took them and I had them all redone and reupholstered, and here they are. And I got these. So that had the outside kitchen. Theyd go in and theyd take the windows out and theyd use the windows, and they destroyed it. [laughs] And I lived there for a long time. Mrs. Mackey. You buy me out. And he bought me out. I grew up loving it and always having it, and my mother was great with it. Ario George Lazzari Ario George Lazzari, 82, passed away on February 26, 2023 at NYU Langone Hospital in Brooklyn, New York. I went to grammar school and high school here. If we can reach an agreement with Historic House Trust, by all means. Daller: What about the coat? Burke: So I did that [sold the Tidewater Inn]. Daller: I mean, that big wrap-around porch that went all the way around the house. And he said, George, you know, that big, beautiful house that sits empty? And Ill invest in a couple of other things that will give me a nice little income, and I wont have to worry about it. Victor. And I want my painting. Everybody smelled like that. Burke: Ed. And I loved it. My mother and his wife never got along too well. Burke: Yes. But thats what that was. Most recent obituaries in New York. And my neighbor across the street, who had lived there forever, she comes over again with a couple of little plants for me. I woke up with a sweat. Everybody had left, and Bess and Marge were there, and Bess said to me, George, sit down. Staten Island. And that was the end of that. Thats the only thing in the house left from the Seguines. Burke: Oh, I forgot about that. Yes. And I said, Was that a dream? What was her name? And then, on the third floor, which was in the mansard roof, that was all the servants quarters. Its just a shame. But thats part of whats been going on down here. Daller: No. These are those Persian carpets. And where to get the good buys, and all that kind of thing. But it only reached a certain point of it, not in the very beginning. Daller: Oh, thats exactlyI mean, because that was the reason for getting a board, was to also help get things done. Well, he lived on Staten Island. In a house that you dont even own? And I miss all those horses. I restored that, and that was an old mansionan old pillar-fronted mansionlooked like the house, similar. He appreciated it. Its down in Tottenville, beautifully done. And I had to have somebody upstairs, standing on the stairs, and told me when to stop jacking, when the stairs got level, because the stairs were like this. Its, all the numbers are accounted for. I went to boot camp, I loved it. Theres too much business going on here. So were talking about this and talking about this. I have no idea what it would be like to live in some other place. Daller: We really cant give you any details on that. Because my house was right across the street from it. So it didnt matter. Well. Yes, she died and she was in the front parlor in the coffin, wasnt she? And while I was up there, I was sent up to work with Father Tom. Burke: Oh, my nephew. A lot of the windows were broken out of it. Brother Celestine George Burke, an educator who was a member of the Brothers of the Christian Schools for 63 years, died on Thursday at Riverview Medical Center in Red Bank, N.J. . So they. And she was living here all by herself. Luis was great. Q: What do you think the role of this house is, in this part of Staten Island? I just repainted. And from the garden, you could come back in under the porch and down into the kitchen in the basement. The one in particular, United States Steel [Corporation]. Burke: I used to, but I didnt I didnt keep it on everything. Burke: Oh, and then the house, when I bought it, everybodythe real estate lady, she wouldnt come in. George, now in his eighties, donated the house in exchange for a life tenancy, which has made living here a lot easier. Before he died, thats what he was. Burke: But anyway, it was a big beautiful cameo brooch, and was wrapped in an oil cloth rag! And in the basement, I put the kitchen and a dining area and everything. What are we gonna do here? So he said, Well, I really love doing this, George. And I said, Okay, John, thats fine. I got one or two things out of it. Because he lived right here, lived right here on Staten Island. And so I had all that stuff in my apartment. Because I certainlyI never passed up a bargain. Daller: And he formed the board in order to support the house. And I was always a horse person. You couldnt tell what it was. Burke: I had a beautiful big old house in Tottenville that I loved. I mean, its just normal living in a normal house. I think so. They didnt have it six months and they went under. I had the house put back together. Q: And so all these items went upwalked up the stairs and were, carried back down the stairs. She stated, George, I want you to save my house, and agreed to sell the house for a feasible sum in exchange for his promise to restore it. And my uncle came in and was part of the whole group. Burke: Sure. So as long as I own it, I own it, theyll pay for it. And he wanted to retire and he gave his son the business. But Ive got to bring that portrait down and put it above that fireplace and get rid of that painting thats there. Its a big plaque on it, its landmarked and everything. Burke: Yes. And with that money, I restored most of the house. So everything just kept going off and someone would have all of this, someone would have all of that. Burke: To put it backbecause the house was ruined, it was in terrible shape. So I paid it off and bought it in cash, with the cash. And I said, What in the hell is this doing in my house? So I opened up the lid and there was this old lady laying in there, with this big lace collar around her neck, and her hair was puffed up behind her head, like that, was all gray. Loving son of Joan (Perry) Burke of Plymouth and the late George W. Burke. Ill make you the drapes. The drapes are still up there. It was his first time off of Staten Island. Then, on that side, was the dining room, and the kitchen. And in order to have food and such, youd have to bring it up the back stairs. Chris was the one that got involved with it. But unfortunately, all the stuff up there was cured by urine. And as I said, I was in the military up there and we werent a big group of military, it was like a small base. And thats what I called out for was help. And that still is, today, one of the great places around here, the Old Bermuda Inn, and John still owns it. What were the things that you did when you were young? I mean, Captains Quarters, instead of building all those condos down there, it would have been beautiful to have another stately home there. I forgot whose house it was. And the fact that somebody could save a house like this, and want to show it to people, and let people hear about the history behind it? So all the big mansions were built with outside kitchens. All that gorgeous porcelain, like the Flower Sellers Childrenits a big piece like that. They talk about Tottenville, its all McMansions. Everything has changed, all the old houses are torn down. And over the years, it became just prohibitive to try and do. Besides horses and Rusty, there are peacocks too. And Luis was really, really a great guy. And then, where they built the schoolwhat is that girls school up here? So every time she wants to go riding, she has to go all the way to New Jersey, ride her horse, and then come all the way back. And I invested in a couple of things. But, thats what I did. The oldwhat the hell was itgrocery store. Burke: Oh, when I was a kid, we lived in Annandale. Im sure some will. First thing I started with was the basement because it had four-foot of water in it. And it was very much built like this house. That is the only thing that worries methat the house will be stripped. Of course, nothings there. Q: So this is going to part of an online archive. So Id go over there and, of course, Bess Seguine was always over there. And then one of my brothers had just gotten out of the military. All the grounds, the stables, everythingthey cant change a thing. I want it now. I could never get it. And they were going to pay for everything if they owned it. And the house was really, needed shapebut thank God it was built as well is it was built, otherwise it would have fallen down. And the only reason why this survived is because nobody wanted the farmhouse! And, you know, who has that!? But I restored all that. And he said, Mom, Ill move in to the other part of the house. And then the Eric woke up, and I said, Well, I dont know. He did the White House and everything. [laughs] But, itll be here. Burke: Oh, well, look what I did. Daller: He enjoys the whole house. When did it start to feel done? And then, on the side of the house in the back, there was a little piece built out. They couldnt. And if theyre gonna make a museum out of it, theyre gonna have to pay somebody to greet people and take them on tours. He was from Central America somewhere, and he just believed in everything had to be right. And they said, Oh my god, George, what are you Oh, and who else was that? What the hell is this? All of a sudden, she went, Youre in my house, and get out! Holy Christ. Daller: Yes. Daller: No, I dont. He upholstered that chair with the things in the back. We have a choice in having a caretaker come in also to maintain it. My big old Victorian house is saved, and thats still there. And I had a little house in Tottenville so I decided, well, Ill move into this big housein hereand Ill get rid of all the property that I have in Tottenville. Theres none of the spirits. Q: The stuff that you got in England, from Mrs. Murphy. Still kept it. Burke: Well, most of the stuff in the house, he worked with me. You said you started with the basement. So I picked up this one building that had a little old bar next to it. Q: Yes. The Secret Service, as well as a Cohasset school accounting specialist and the superintendent, are determining how much the operation cost the town. People, Oh, could you help me? And especially when I came to Staten Island and I was working for Sherwin Williams, andwhat the hell, Florence? Remember him? Just as long as its saved and its here. Q: Was it a similar style? Q: And how did you decide, I guess, how to rebuild? And they copied that from France, because thats what it was, it was the French mansard. Q: Well, Im pretty much at the end of my questions. Then there was the main hall that went through, just like this: door, front door, back door. And he owned the funeral home. And I said, Well, the smell is still there. And I said to her, Whatever happened to the old girl? And she said, Well, years ago, when she died, she said, she was laid out in the front parlor in the coffin, and it was nothing but lilacs. Q: Can you tell me about studying interior design? That wasyou probably dont rememberthere was this great big factory right down here, built on the beach. Daller: And he uses every room, he doesnt sit in one room. She spent most of her life as a homemaker. Q: I mean, I live in a small apartment, so what is it like to live in a kind of museum quality home? And if I couldnt take care of them, Id call down to the base and theyd send a helicopter and theyd pick them up and take them down to the hospital, because we had to take care of them, because Alaska was ours, and all the Eskimos was our responsibility. And they were big floors. Theyre all McMansions. You can go and look and read about anything about the South Shore of Staten Island. Did quite well. And the White Party we do in order to take care of doing cleanup on the lawn, doing any kind of plantings, or anything, because he did it all the years. This was all field, all the way up, and she used to turn the horses loose on all the fields out there. And now the people that I sold it to, the Pistillis [James and Kathleen Pistilli], they had the whole thing researched and now its got landmark things on it and everything. Because the water was in the basement for so many years, all the dampness had lifted all the floorboards and everything, and so I had to dry the house out, and replaster the walls. We all got coupons. He was an antiquehe had a big rug business in. She was great, I loved her. In Europe, he felt like he had been. He got involved with riding there and was constantly riding. I took forty-four big trees down in the front field just so you could clear the front and see the house. So I moved into the house here. And then upstairs was like a big balcony above that porch. Burke: Oh, it was all overgrown with undergrowth. And all those Eskimos just loved me. But anyway, she said, Im not going in the house. Burke: Yes. And I did, I got in St. George wasnt it? But he did a lot of the work for you. Its all stay in here. Sure, Id no idea of ever owning his house because I had a beautiful big house in Tottenvillebig French style house. And then when we realized we were broke, all my brothers joined the military, got married, moved away. So Id go up there and Id say, Ed, Adriana, what do you got? Well, we got some old fabric, out of date fabric. Give it to me! And Id take it. And with the Air Force, I enjoyed every minute. Its still there, the framework of it, with the brick. Daller: Well, he said, he felt that house had spirits in it. Thats the usual setup, I think, for historic houses. Ill do the whole window. So the next day, Im up and Im outside. Q: And so, what sort of vision do you have for, you know, the next the next forty years, for how the grounds are maintained and how. And thats what this house is. So we brought that point up a few times. Burke: But anyway, when my time was up in the service, they shipped me back here to, Burke: Alaska, and I stayed in Alaska. We just mentioned him. Save my house. And I thought, Oh, shit. I was down on the beach one day, I forgot what were doing. So itll be part of Staten Island that people, maybe fifty years from now when theres not a spot left, theyll all come out and theyll look and say, Wow, this is what it used to be.. He was always at the stables there. In fact, I think it was just landmarked wasnt it? Did you know that from? When he came he got everything going. And underneath it was a whole kitchen and dining room that opened out to under the porch. So as long as you have people, youre going to have change, and people are going to say, That doesnt work! Burke: So I dont know if that was a ghost. I collected all my antiques and all my stuff when I was traveling. Hes been maintaining it for forty-plus years. He said, when he was moving here, he told the people there, he goes, Im moving. So dont worry about it. Ghost in the houseif shes gonna live there, she could do some cleaning up, do some dusting. Because I wanted the man that built the house, and this is the man that saved the house. Burke: Anyway, she was well known here on Staten Island. And I had the two apartments! And then when they decided thatthey owned a beautiful house on one of the Keys in Florida. Burke: Well, youve got to thank Mrs. Seguine. Absolutely gorgeous. Of course, she loved the smell of lilacs. Interviewing George Burke, and. On a goddamn pillared mattress sleeping? He used to stay out here. Im gonna go look. Burke: Scalia. Tell me when you want me to start. You werent on Staten Island. And thats where I had all this wonderful carved stuff from the Eskimos that they gave me. And also about the history of Staten Island, or the style that the house is decorated in, the Victorian style, your collection. Destroyed. One woman wouldnt go it, cant think of her name. I was always in the operating room or someplace like that. All went into the landfill. Burke: Yes. Yes. Staten Island, Richmond County, NY Genealogy Site - Staten Island Recent Obituaries Burke: So that should pretty well cover it, I think. Oh, God, it was gorgeous. And then Iwhatd I do then, Ioh, I paid for this house, didnt I? And if you were wearing them and you went and got in your car and turned the heater on, you smelled like piss. I said, Where are you? She said, Well, I moved out years ago and went back to Georgia. So there wasnt a lot of time spent here. Burke: Oh, yes. Thats the only thing people could bring. And that was a kitchen, and that was bedrooms and a little living room, all up there. Brother Bill? Beloved husband of Rosanna (Ialuna) Burke. Its still there, you can see it. I open the door to the parlor. And, well, lets face it, they never had any hot water over there at all. And my nephewwhat the hell was he? Architectural style and interior style? Ive been to the Tenement Museum, and I love the fact that theres a woman on a loop and she discusses living in the apartment. Burke: I never lived in a little small house, I have no idea. And Id go downtown and Id wheel and deal for a bottle of whiskey. But those things, I couldnt. And I had the money to do it, and I said, You know, let me do it.. And you can put it together and fix it. 174 East 80th Street, New York, NY 10075Phone: (212) 988-8379 | Fax: (212) 537-5571Contact Us: info@nypap.org. Valley Stream. How the hell they got to the right people, I dont know. And I kept life rights for it. Burke: Yes. Burke - 1 - 2 and grew up 90% of my time on Staten Island until I became old enough and I joined the military. Q: So its confidential becauseoh, okay. She left things there. And thats where she was. She said, You saw her in your dream. I said, Holy shit, I said, you think that was her? She said, It could have been her. I said, Then she went like that and chased me out of her house. 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