We don't know about mechanisms. KING: How did you find out what he had? And I stand by those comments. ", He said other members of his defense team also deserved credit for his acquittal, but added: "Without Johnnie running the ball, I don't think there's a lawyer in the world that could have run that ball. Both defense attorneys Robert Shapiro and Johnnie Cochran believed from the outset that Simpson was guilty, Toobin says. They do give off less radiation than a cell phone, but wearing it all the time could be a problem. But there's no reason to worry because so far, the studies haven't proven anything. In 2004, Cochrans associates revealed that he was suffering from an undisclosed illness. KING: Doctor, is there pain involved in this? KING: You had to like Johnnie Cochran. But I think now most of the people who actually do research on brain cancer causes are very skeptical that cell phones cause brain cancer. GUPTA: They say, use it. And by the way, it's more important, most of the experts agreed, to pour millions of dollars into research for treatments for those who get the disease -- from causes unknown, unproven, or unconsidered -- rather than worry about a little thing called prevention. For years its been speculated that Super Attorney Johnnie Cochrans brain tumor was caused by his cell phone use. We need to be -- we need to have an open mind. Dale Cochran's First Interview Since the Death of Her Husband Johnnie; Is There a Link Between Cell Phones and Cancer? What's known about the impact of RF on human tissue?" I would like to point you to the long-term data that's coming out of the Interphone studies. After returning to private practice, Cochran built his firm into a personal injury giant with more than 100 lawyers and offices around the country. I initially thought it might be an infection. D. COCHRAN: I think perhaps there could be. When we come back, Dr. Gupta will be with us, along with the return of Dale Cochran and Dr. Keith Black. This advancement opens up new avenues for medical research and the possibility of transplantation therapies for conditions such as neurodegenerative diseases is POV and doesn't make any Do you think there's a link? And if you use your phone all the time -- like I -- you know, people in the news business, they have a cell phone to the ear all the time. KING: You can contact the Johnny Cochran Brain Center at Cedars- Sinai. LOS ANGELES Famed attorney Johnnie L. Cochran Jr. (search), who became a household name when he defended O.J. In 1966, a Black motorist named Leonard Deadwyler, while attempting to get his pregnant wife to a hospital, was killed by police officer Jerold Bova. KING: Is the Johnny Cochran Brain Tumor Center -- we were there at its opening. Tory v. Cochran (search) involves a bitter ex-client who was ordered to never display a sign or speak about Cochran again. It was in an area that was critical for his language -- in fact, very similar, I presume, for Senator Kennedy's. Everyone is a user. That is one of the problems with the Interphone study, which is the World Health Organization study between 13 countries. Cochran's longtime mistress, Patricia Sikora, also spoke out against the attorney. BLACK: Well, there is a base line rate of people developing tumors. And I think as part of that question, the World Health Organization has come to a point where it agreed about a decade ago -- or over a decade ago -- to host the Interphone Study Group. And, you know, when we were -- when I was researching for the book that you and I talked about, I looked into all of this. Another neurosurgeon joins us. The jury is still out. It remains an enigma. called in during that show. KING: Like Ted Kennedy had? Part of HuffPost Wellness. Furthermore, this is the public position of leading health organizations, such as the United States Food and Drug Administration, the FDA, the American Cancer Society, ACS, and the World Health Organization, WHO. Detective Sawyer, having said earlier that if he could not crack the case he would join the others in the cell, does so. Do you think we'll have a statistical rate to link these two? And we immediately went to see a doctor in the next day or two. And my concern is that with the widespread use of cell phones, I think the worst scenario would be that we get the definitive study ten years from now and we find there's a correlation. "His fight for justice transcended color, age or economic status. DALE COCHRAN, JOHNNIE COCHRAN'S WIDOW: Initially, there was a loss of memory. WebAccording to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), the average time between first exposure to a cancer-causing agent and clinical recognition of the disease The police pursued, leading to a nationally Research Paper On The Oj Simpson Case BLACK: That's considered, you know, a significant increase, although the overall incidence of brain cancer is low. What indication did he give you that something was wrong? KING: Use it? The Nokia a few years later, this was '98, and then '99 and then 2001. And I think that there's enough sort of concern out there to at least prompt people to think more about how they use their cell phones, using earpieces, keeping it further away from the ear and things like that. And I think it's a great idea if you are worried about it. In an interview with the New York Post last September, he said, "I'm feeling pretty good" and described himself as "90 percent" improved. He died at his home in Los Angeles on Tuesday, March 29, 2005 from a brain tumor. KING: It's a wonderful place and a great addition the health system in this country. And I think it's possible. Meanwhile others may choose to apply the "precautionary principle." Brad has a phone in his breast pocket. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) JOHNNIE COCHRAN, ATTORNEY: If it doesn't fit, you must acquit. GUPTA: Well KING: You had to be suspicious or why -- why bother with the earpiece? It's more the individual's responsibility. Cochran died at 12:30 p.m. PT (3:30 p.m. And I think pretty much everyone knows if you are x-rays all the time, that's not good. JONATHAN COCHRAN, JOHNNIE COCHRAN'S SON: I look at it now and it seems like he was taken too soon. "I read everything I could find about Thurgood Marshall and confirmed that a single dedicated man could use the law to change society.". The weight of the evidence is negative. Mutual Fund and ETF data provided by Refinitiv Lipper. Upon passing the bar, Cochran worked as a deputy criminal prosecutor in Los Angeles. In-universe information. Mutual Fund and ETF data provided by Refinitiv Lipper. And when you are actually using the phone, it should be kept at least 15 millimeters up to an inch away from your ear. Waiting can damage your case. WebPortrayed by. So, you know, I think the safe practice is to use an earpiece so that you keep the microwave antenna away from your head. Cell Phones and the Death of Johnnie Cochran Johnnie Cochran's widow, Dale, and his neurosurgeon Dr. Keith Black discuss how cell phones may have led to his WebThe direction in which the camera la facing and the taking of the pictures ure controlled through the tube from the outside. That's what people should do. BLACK: Any symptom related to memory, speech, vision, movement. Later, we'll get into a major discussion about cell phones and we'll include our own Dr. Sanjay Gupta. More studies are needed. I think arrogance is the worst way to go. Health, food and environmental journalist; radio host, Progressive Radio Network. J. COCHRAN: The resolution of this case is in no way an admission of guilt by Michael Jackson. He's the head of that. The overwhelming majority of studies that have been published in scientific journals around the globe show that wireless phones do not pose a health risk. You know, a lot of studies may not be perfect. BLACK: Teenagers and even younger -- and they will be using cell phones for 20 or 30 years, we do not have enough data now to say that, you know, that is a safe device. Click here to go to our international version. Quotes displayed in real-time or delayed by at least 15 minutes. Go ahead. And, actually, before he developed the tumor that was ultimately more aggressive, I was treating Johnnie for a more benign tumor a few years before. Hearst Magazine Media, Inc. Site contains certain content that is owned A&E Television Networks, LLC. WebOne notorious case The Cochran Firm tried was in 2004, when the firm's attorneys, representing Francis Ferko and accomplices, were able to bully NASCAR into eliminating its Grand Slam by forcing NASCAR to surrender the Mountain Dew Southern 500 in Darlington, SC, and giving a new date to Texas Motor Speedway. It is a great pleasure to welcome to LARRY KING LIVE Dale Cochran, the widow of the famed attorney, the late Johnnie Cochran. And this was a phone that was probably one of the most popular at that time. Ton can buy a new 1953 Ford 2-door Sedan delivered in 174q Ardmore for a 1177 Sam p. Hale phone 708 since 1911 balancing. KING: In the brain? WebJohnnie Cochran - Death. The flashy yet venerable attorney's health started to falter last year, according to media reports. Joining us in New York is Lewis Slesin. People that work in plastic factories -- as Dale said, I think one of the things that we're very excited about is not only trying to identify potential causes that we can eliminate, but also trying to find effective treatments and cures at the Johnny Cochran Brain Tumor Center. KING: Dr. Khurana, by the way, do you use a cell phone? Often times, these phone come with a holster. Dale Cochran will be joining us later on. That doesn't completely clear the story, but it is an important piece of information. He was a celebrity in his own right, a great friend of this show. I'd certainly agree with that. I thank all of our guests. It doesn't fit. KING: On a regular basis, every day? That's correct. There's no known mechanism, but not necessarily no mechanism. or redistributed. In 1978, Cochran once again became part of the citys legal force when he joined the Los Angeles County district attorney's office, although he eventually returned to private practice. It gives you an opportunity to do interesting things. He asked his secretary to call me and get me on the phone because he couldn't remember the phone number to the house. THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. Find out when we come back. He was 67. Family members and colleagues of the legal KING: And how far has the -- SLESIN: What we're missing is the understanding of how this could possibly work. In 2004, Cochrans associates revealed that he was suffering from an undisclosed illness. GUPTA: We don't know. The control group uses cell phones. It seems, Dale, that if they don't have any proof, people are at least concerned. D. COCHRAN: Attach an earpiece immediately. So we know that there is KING: You can't discuss an individual case then? Yet we know that we do. I really think the overwhelming amount of evidence that we have from reviewing the literature has shown there really is no good, viable link between cell phone use and brain tumors. Simpson, meanwhile, was held liable for the killings following a 1997 civil trial and ordered to pay the Brown and Goldman families $33.5 million in restitution. And I think that given the research and break throughs we are now making in cancer and brain cancer in particular, one of the positive outcomes is that if we can get more research funding, we can accelerate finding an effective treatment for this disease. But in the Simpson case, Cochran turned the murder trial into an indictment of the Police Department, suggesting officers planted evidence in an effort to frame the former football star because he was a black celebrity. And you're putting a heat source, essentially, close to your ear, close to your brain for, you know, again, long periods of time, depending on how long you use it. WebWhen evidence led police to suspect O.J. God bless you. Born in Shreveport, La., the great-grandson of slaves, grandson of a sharecropper and son of an insurance salesman, Cochran came to Los Angeles with his family in 1949. In 1978, Cochran once again became part of the citys legal force when he joined the Los Angeles County district attorney's office, although he eventually returned to private practice. They were not sure what the abnormality on the MRI scan demonstrated. And if there is a potential cause out there, we need to seriously look into it. The Cochran Firm is one of the nations largest personal injury & medical malpractice law firms with some of the most aggressive personal injury attorneys. As Dr. Gupta has pointed out, their quantification of what constitutes regular use is itself quite alarming. Or check out our newest web feature, about last night. Attorney Johnnie Cochran took on highly publicized police brutality cases and defended such celebrity clients as Michael Jackson and O. J. Simpson. D. COCHRAN: Well, I think it's an enigma. Before dying, Cochran said he thought his cell phone caused his brain cancer. Shapiro, who is white, had accused Cochran of playing the race card and of dealing it "from the bottom of the deck.". KING: Somebody is scared. I mean, the proper way to use a phone would to be hold it like this. He didn't do his own studies here, but he's looked at something that I think has been concerning to a lot of people who have really sat down and looked at these studies for some time. Simpson was found not guilty in his murder trial, yet nonetheless faced civil litigation, with millions in damages awarded to the Brown and Goldman families. How did he become your patient, doctor? That's the founding editor and publisher of Microwave News, maybe the major publication in this field. 2023 FOX News Network, LLC. Let me show you what that looks like on an MRI scan. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) KING: Welcome back to LARRY KING LIVE. It provides sensation to the rest of the body. One of the most memorable moments of the televised trial came from Cochran, who instructed the jury in closing arguments: "If it doesn't fit, you must acquit.". Cochran filed a civil suit on behalf of Deadwyler's family; though he lost, the attorney was nonetheless inspired to take on police abuse cases over the ensuing years. This is animation of the brain, sort of looking at it from the behind, as you can see there. The trial left many of those certain of Simpson's guilt furious at Cochran, the leader of a group of expensive celebrity lawyers that included F. Lee Bailey, Robert Shapiro, Barry Scheck and Peter Neufeld. It's the long-term data we should be looking at. I mean any function that the brain is responsible for can be a symptom of a brain tumor. And there's really no good mechanism by which non-ionizing radiation can cause brain tumors. THUN: I think that what's still in question is the acoustic neuromas. GUPTA: It's hard to say. It's carried in the approved holster. KING: Dr. Black, would you comment on what he just said? DR. TED SCHWARTZ, NEW YORK PRESBYTERIAN HOSPITAL: I don't really think they are worried about brain tumors. KING: When they see keep it in the holster, that means keep it away from your body. But the bottom line question is: While we're waiting ten years to find out whether radiating RFs into the head (or the area adjacent to the genitals) is good or bad, should we suffer the inconvenience of minimizing cell phone use? In a trial that involved celebrity and domestic abuse, the Simpson trial became best known for dividing the country along racial lines. KING: Dr. Khurana, you want to respond? Secondly, we know that in the country that's used cell phones for the longest, which is Sweden -- they came in the early 1980's and the early cell phones were -- had much higher emissions than today's cell phones. KING: One type of tumor often mentioned in the discussion of potential risk of cell phones is acoustic neuroma. Are you more confused when you listen to the two doctors? One is that, you know, where there is smoke, there's fire, that's the old adage, right? SLESIN: That's right. I use cell phones. He attracted famous clients like .css-47aoac{-webkit-text-decoration:underline;text-decoration:underline;text-decoration-thickness:0.0625rem;text-decoration-color:inherit;text-underline-offset:0.25rem;color:#A00000;-webkit-transition:all 0.3s ease-in-out;transition:all 0.3s ease-in-out;}.css-47aoac:hover{color:#595959;text-decoration-color:border-link-body-hover;}Michael Jackson and led O. J. Simpson's defense team in the 1995 murder trial. In fact, Sanjay is going to do a little exercise for us in the growth of an industry. Cell phones give off non-ionizing radiation. I can think back at least five years ago when Dr. Black wore an ear piece back then. Well, let's break it down a little. Dr. Gupta is our chief CNN medical correspondent, himself is a practicing neurosurgeon. Before he leaves us -- he will be returning with Dana Cochran. Their answer might surprise you and it's next on LARRY KING LIVE. But I think of it as he's on a big case and for whatever reason, God needed a lawyer in heaven and said call Johnnie Cochran. Dr. Thun, do you think this one is safer than that one? Next, do you believe cell phones are harmful? In April 2004, Cochran underwent surgery, which led to his staying away from the media. And I spoke with Johnnie and also with Dale and they flew back to Los Angeles, where we did further diagnostic studies. Since gaining a reputation in Ebony magazine as "the best in the West" in the early 1980s, Cochran eventually became the go-to guy for black celebrities in trouble. Although he frequently took police departments on in court, Cochran denied being anti-police and supported the decision of his only son, Jonathan, to join the California Highway Patrol. I knew that he had a very serious malignant tumor, but I didn't look at it in terms of being terminal. I do think that he raises a very important concern, I think particularly among young people using cell phones. Our results suggest an association between cellular phone use and prodded gland tumors." BLACK: It does, Larry. We may earn commission from links on this page, but we only recommend products we back. I was innocent, but he believed it. This was the Motorola flip phone. Jeff and Laura, your prizes are in the mail. This is a scan that somebody would get in the doctor's office. I loved him, and I will miss him. In one of the most controversial scenes so far in the blockbuster FX series, The People Vs O.J. Unfortunately, you know, my suspicion is that it's going to be five years or 10 years before we have a definitive answer. According to TMZ, the Florida rapper currently has a warrant out for his arrest. One of the bigger concerns, though, I think, is the fact that it just generates a lot of heat or it generates heat. I don't know what you think about this whole subject. The whole family was there, all of the kids and myself, his sisters, his father, who has lived with us for a number of years. The family moved to California in 1943, where the younger Cochran eventually excelled as a student in what was becoming a more racially integrated environment. BLACK: We did a biopsy, yes. Please use the form below to contact us by email, or pick up the phone and call us at 1.800.THE FIRM (1.800.843.3476) You have a limited time to pursue compensation. KING: We all liked Johnnie. KING: But that was not a death signal? They don't recommend carrying a phone in your breast pocket. I don't know anyone who didn't like him -- defense attorneys who opposed him, prosecutors D. COCHRAN: Oh, yes. His client list included former "Diff'rent Strokes" star Todd Bridges, Sean "P. Diddy" Combs, Michael Jackson (search), who is now facing child molestation charges, and former football great Simpson. He had surgery, right? His family was by his side and he had been in a hospice, Epps said. He remained a beloved figure in the black community, admired as a lawyer who was relentless in his pursuit of justice and as a philanthropist who helped fund a UCLA scholarship, a low-income housing complex and a New Jersey legal academy, among other charitable endeavors. KING: That's a simple solution to this, don't -- instead of your phones, attach an earpiece to the phone? Legal Statement. So just to go through what we know, we know that the type of radio frequency that comes from cell phones is very different from what comes from an X-Ray or a nuclear bomb. In some of these European studies, almost a four times increased likelihood of developing tumors like this one in people who are chronic cell phone users. What, Dr. Khurana, does this tell us? Brad has a phone in his pocket of his pants. D. COCHRAN: Yes. KING: All right, Dr. Gupta, Dr. Black says it's possible. Simpson's lead attorney Tuesday, saying he abruptly halted support payments after she discussed their relationship on television. ET) at his home in Los Angeles. The brain cancer rates have been flat since the introduction of cell phones. BLACK: other neurological problems. Yes. Upon Simpson trying on bloodied gloves that prosecutors alleged were used during the murder, Cochran came up with a phrase that would become famous: If it doesnt fit, you must acquit. Under the auspices of Bailey, who had a private investigator background, the team also discovered that detective Mark Fuhrman had made racist, highly incendiary remarks about African-American citizens. It's a multi-billion dollar industry and a mounting controversy. -- Dr. Black. who was arrested for speeding and later found dead in his cell. BLACK: Well, I think it's very difficult, Larry, to make a direct correlation between an individual developing a brain tumor and the use of cell phones. And part of that's due to Dr. Black, because I talked to him a couple of years ago about this and KING: Really? KING: Johnnie Cochran probably was one of the best known attorneys in the United States. D. COCHRAN: I don't really like to use the word terminal. KING: Louis, would it be a simple solution, everyone should use an ear phone? KING: Can you break it down? He died from a brain tumor on March 29, 2005, at the age of 67. He's director of brain tumor surgery at New York Presbyterian Hospital. Again, they don't recommend that based on the industry's recommendation. GUPTA: Yes, I do. It used to come in a bag. 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