As a long-time, dedicated anti-gunner, this wasnt Senator Harmons first legislative rodeo. FREE SHIPPING on orders over $90! Yuge. thats the one ive just stopped considering. How is it that they even survived to change in the first place? His quote was basically the above damned if I do damned if I dont and that it wasnt worth the headache. This is a digital day/night scope. I dont expect everyone to feel that way. Any combination of buying or selling that exceeds 9 is a crime if youre not a dealer. Taurus? Customer service beyond any reproach. The bills author was (mostly) Rugers attorneys. Not a nice odor. I think sometimes its just because they are new to the hobby of guns. You shouldve made that decision because it is a piece of garbage, not because of this hysterical article. Welp. Thats bad, dont get me wrong. Nice deal on it until 4 July as well. They hate freedom and absolutely love all powerful Government. Ruger, S&W, Springfield, Rock River, Ive seen people complain about Glock and Colt, Hex Mag, and about a dozen more. Are you reading-impaired? Absolutely love them. Rock River Arms, Incorporated is a manufacturing company in Colona, Illinois that manufacturers parts and accessories for AR-15 / M16 type rifles, as well as other firearms. Rock River Arms is owned and operated by brothers Mark and Chuck Larson. Between 1981 and 1991 the Larsons worked at Springfield Armory, Inc., where Mark was the head armorer. An American voting for a Democrat In the end, the timing proved fortuitous to all involved.. These two companies MUST be boycotted into bankruptcy. What flavor is it, and how much do you want? Get a Dan Wesson instead. When Colorado banned high cap magazines magpul moved to Texas. Of course there will be others that benefit as well. WebRock River Arms is a firearms manufacturer that produces a variety of rifles, pistols, and parts for civilian, law enforcement, and military markets. see: gasoline supply during any natural disaster where the govt threatens to prosecute profiteers. If you dont support Ruger you dont support American ideals. I swear its getting hard to keep track of them all by memory. The XD and Saint are good guns, but they really arent all that different from a lot of other good guns on the market. When you need mags that you can count on with each and every shot, make sure you turn to Rock River Arms! RRA donated money as well I think they knew about stuff going on, but want to pretend they did not. Rock River booth at the NRA convention, owner Chuck Larson has professed innocence in the matter. I bought a RRA rifle back in 2012. If CTD notices panic buying, shuts down their site and reprices everything, thats their right. If signed into law, the bill his lobbyist declined to oppose will drive many dealers out of business with its onerous and expensive restrictions and requirements. This should put some perspective on how important this issue is to many of us. If theres a silver lining here, this law should be shot down by the courts. One of the few cases of sincere contrition. Dicks/Field & Stream, Troy, Hexmag, RRA, Springfield Arms, Target, CTD, et al, are making it hard on themselves.They are alienating their demographic. They seemed like a freedom loving company that supported the right for people to do what they had rights to do. If this bill actually passes, I think the hit should be pretty severe. PERIOD. When a big box store is competitive on price with the local gun shop, you know there is a problem. The S&W deal with Clinton was made on March 17, 2000 and the company was sold for $45 million ($15 million cash and $30 million in acquired debt) on May 11, 2001 So Rock River spent at least $50.000 fund the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association. They fixed the old rifle, returned it to me and offered me the M1A for all the troubles I had experienced. Im appalled that Rock River thinks that we are that gullible.. That kind of thing actually happens all the time in lobbying. This is how capitalism works. I used to have a TRP. An XD and its in .40? Wow, the article on Reese is incredible. But it will be history at my house. (Im a 30 yr Vet). They ignored it. Meaning they are NOT a legal lobbyist. Not saying you have to like what happened, but its soviet Illinois, it was going to happen with or without their opposition. In order to try to get a lock on about 1.6 million FOID holders in Illinois, Springfield has angered the other 80 million gun owners in the rest of the nation. Springfield is DEAD to me. Meanwhile, over at the Rock River booth at the NRA convention, owner Chuck Larson has professed innocence in the matter. With the Hillarys loss there is no longer a looming gun ban on the horizon and the firearm industry and market is facing a correction. You see once you jump in bed with the marketing types and throw millions at image you quickly discover that your rudder fell off long ago and now youre not sure what you stand forif anything. They are more than welcome in southern Indiana. This wasnt the first time gun dealer licensing has come up in Illinois. Have been eyeballing the SA Saint the last couple weeks. See below for more information. I posted a similar comment on another article about the same subject matter, but again, and for emphasis: SPRINGFIELD IS DEAD TO ME. We want our dealers and our valued customers to know we wont ever do anything like this again., We fully support the Second Amendment and stand by it. Springfield could have fought thisor vocally opposed it on its way to potential passage. Granted, the company isnt run by a Henry these days but I thought the paper trail of ownership was fairly clear and unbroken. The CMMG MkW-15 XBE Anvil gets the top pick for enthusiasts that handload or shoot a lot. I cannot in good conscience support in any way a company that would pull this kind of stunt. IF WE LOSE RRA BECAUSE OF THIS HYSTERICAL REACTION, thats a blow to liberty. CTD is my last choice. Springfield and Rock River Illinois Sell-Out: Picking up the Another dealer told me he wished Springfield well. Fuck Ruger as well. Under no circumstances would they sell me any magazines. A whole lot of gun owners see the deal as a sell-out. Wheres the proof they had enough influence to dictate what that organization did. What would you have done differently if you ran SA or RRA with a workforce that is similarly trapped in soviet Illinois and depends on your company staying open and profitable to keep their jobs? Make it a campaign issue NOW. Imagine, a corrupt Illinois politician! They will now go to the top so I can wear them out and use the warranty. Watch the TonyBen videos on YouTube. Until we destroy that party America will continue to be destroyed from within. There are millions of people in the US who no longer think that its enough to fight and die for these rights. Bill is long gone and the last 15yrs of Ruger leadership have taken a much different stance. S&W was owned by a British company who were forced to sell their company for pennies on the dollar. Cant this fool see how much this is going to hes going to hurt his own pocketbook for this tiny edge? Half of those are national groups out of Washington, D.C., that have set up shop inSpringfield hotels. A Rock River two-stage match trigger or even a 3-pound single-stage trigger would be a recommended upgrade. Going the other direction nobody would move. They have no ethics. If only there was a place to run-and-gun in or near NWI. After further review, Rock River Arms, Inc. (RRA) is immediately severing all ties with the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA). Out of stock Compare. Web50%. SA, who knows, maybe they can retool to make manure spreaders. They did what they thought would keep the Criminal Clinton Administration from making a total all out war on guns. The idea being that this bill is so toxic that Senators passing it or the Governor signing it will be drawn into a wide-ranging financial and criminal probe. Regardless of who did what,the after-effects of this deal and a legislative loss will be felt far beyond Illinois for some time to come. I think that if gun owners boycotted every company into oblivion that had to compromise at some point there wouldnt be any gun manufacturers around. There is a story of a guy that got run out of business after a hurricane because he jacked his prices up for generators. Springfield Armory *deserves* to be pitchforked and torched. Nothing unethical about this practice. After his passing, a new leadership took over the company with many positive results. Wrong. They hate this stuff because opponents can use it. Meanwhile, theres another, ahem, firearm blog, that refuses to address the SA/RRA issue. I know I wont be buying anything else from springfield armory. Neither will have the working capitol to sustain a relocation. Seems like a stand up guy to me. After further review, Rock River Arms, Inc. (RRA) is immediately severing all ties with the Illinois Firearms Manufacturers Association (IFMA). We feel that IFMAs integrity is compromised and we will not be a part of the organization. I would have called my lawyer, the NRA and a publicist. In the end, the timing proved fortuitous to all involved. Illinois gun owners should pack up and move across the Mississippi to Missouri. If you apply more than 9 make-ups in a year, you are in cosmetology businesses. Looked at a custom SA 1911 before purchasing an STI. And by the way, sarcastically calling people badasses loses its effect when you get so butthurt by an article that you start calling the author a pu$$y. Yes, very disappointed. An EMP 4 WAS the next scheduled buy.. not anymore, never again. CTD does our best to price our products at market value. We do not need traitors in our midst. Robert, and we, the honest and dedicated advocates of the 2A and gun owners stand by TTAG in this. AND started planning to move out of the state. Better sell that RRA while you still can. * How to order a firearm: See The Guide. Had a Springfield 1911 that I sold late last year to fund another purchase and was thinking of replacing it with a TRP at some point guess this gives me all the excuses I needed to spend a few hundred more for a Dan Wesson or an STI. Ive spoken with a couple of bigger dealers in Illinois in the past 24 hours. As has been said by numerous others, that Springer I had thought about buying just got thrown under the bus. Id say they are a step above most other production 1911s. Why does Ruger all of the sudden get a pass on treachery? Do you rednecks and white trash go out of your way to get the their wrong every single time? And Im not giving them up, to anybody, under any circumstances. The bills author was Dianne Feinstein (D-CA). Theyd screw over their grandmother for a dime. This new model is the latest in the growing line of rifles and pistols based on the RRAGE platform. 84283412342. I ended up buying an Honor Defense Honor Guard. Very pleased with it, as it has most of the features I wanted on a CC weapon. Thats not fighting to protect gun owners. Oh yes, Illinois folks: start an ACTIVE campaign outing all the IL Representatives that voted for the bill. Rock Solid: Rock River Arms NSP CAR Rifle. Expect deep, deep discounts on that warehouse full of XD-Es and Saints they were hoping to sell this summer. I hear you on that Ruger. Current employees would be welcone to come along, otherwise there are many good and talented Americans looking for work. F them. Theyve earned back the support of 2A advocates, imo. We there the courts kill the law or the governor vetoes it, nothing changes the sellout by Springfield. Same here. And rra. THEY MUST BE BOYCOTTED INTO BANKRUPTCY. I was a dedicated 1911 guy and really wanted to stick with something with a grip safety like the EMP contour or even the R-51. This Modern Sporting Rifle is built with a carbine-length gas system with a low-profile gas black to efficiently redirect propellant gases. The rights of citizens that theyve agreed to negotiate away will NEVER be restored. Includes larger .1555 MSRP: $111.99 $75.81. If Rauner is serious about re-election he will veto this flaming sack of shite. Did you expect anything less than shady from the Illinois legislature? Ruget supported the ban on high capacity (ie standard capacity) mags as it favored their line of sporting rifles like the mini-14. That will never happen now. And dont give me this they have changed nonsense. This was a bit disingenuous because, basically, both companies were We can live without them much better than they can live with out us. You wont be able to pull a fast one and expect to not get called out on it. And if stooges like you thought this could be run under the table without anyone noticing, well, guess you should be mindful of your business in the next few quarters. Illinois acts like an evil, independant country when it comes to our Second Amendment rights, ignoring law and constantly jockeying for ways to squelch our right of self-protection through our right to bear arms. It doesnt have to be both for the same reason. Dennis Reeses statement to TTAGon IFMAs deal was insulting. Czech Republic makes good guns,like CZs. My inventory of six XD pistols two 1911 .45s and two M 1As will be up for sale tommorow. Theres no way to know for sure. I dont think youre using that word right. WebRock River Arms LAR-15 LEF-T 5.56mm Tactical Operator AR-15 Left-Handed Rifle Notify Me When Available; Brand: Rock River Arms; Item Number: LH1278; Rock River Arms LAR15 This year, State Senator Don Harmon needed IFMA to end their opposition to his bill. The lobbying group in question received money from SA and RRA back in 2014. Rock River Arms sent me a 6.5 Creedmoor rifle with a tan stock and 24-inch barrel for testing. Some times they have deals. Great comment, but I dont think it is enough. My favorites in their calibers, cherished in my collections. I dont think the current owner is going to make that same mistake although I wish they would just stop putting in that stupid lock already. And no one calls or emails the company that is one of the largest contributor the IFMA group. Apparently, John Smith isnt an advocate of the constitution or specifically the second amendment. You have entered an incorrect email address! job creation they call it (bribery is such a dirty word). I realy liked this ranger officer mogel all stainless nice looking gun. Apples and suspension bridges here. Was also saving up for an m1a. Couple of Butler Buildings, concrete pad to support machinery loading, movers and a power hookup. They are a leader in the firearms field with a vast array of products that work correctly. if you run a company and you dont know whats going on this is what you deserve. Springfields crime here is they didnt immediately counter the IFMA when the IFMA dropped opposition to a bill. Last Updated. Please focus on customer relations and positioning strategies. Two companies provide the bulk of the funding for IFMA:Springfield Armory and Rock River Arms. If people werent buying at these prices than there would be no market. They keep voting for F#$%ing Democrats. Its not difficult. The Reese clan has done dirty deals before, got busted too, http://www.upi.com/Archives/1989/03/16/Salvador-based-Army-colonel-indicted-on-bribery-charges/5406606027600/, RRA sells to NY LE supporting the SAFE act, which is trying to put a vet away for 21 years for having 17rd mags (no gun, just mags), http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017/04/veteran_faces_21_years_in_prison_for_possession_of_pistol_magazines.html. Be everywhere until the bill is toast. That being said, even if we do, Springfield is done as a company. The Ruger is berween $6-700. 3/18/2013. What if I want to get some real nice (read expensive) gun and in order to spare my familys budget I decide to sell part of my gun collection? And I believe it came with an internal lock on the main spring housing. you cant fix prices or youll get a shortage. Just keep in mind, if you have a dozen guns in your safe, I GUARANTEE you that at least one comes from a company whos compromised at some point. 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