GROSS: You grew up in Lubbock, Texas, and Mineral Wells, Texas. So Amanda, you took fiddle lessons from Frankie McWhorter, who played with Bob Wills & The Texas Playboys from 60 to 62 62 was the year that Bob Wills had a heart attack and retired for a long time from music. GROSS: Your mother earlier in her life worked as a bail bondsman, right? And youve called on country music stars to speak out, too. I remember thinking, Wow, theres a lot of potential for me to really mess this up.'. It took me a minute to really learn how to improvise, Shires says of those early years. Trouble, trouble, trouble, trouble, trouble. Theres nothing left to fix. And hed play songs, and Id learn them. Well close with the opening track from Amanda Shires new album. And Zachs going to play guitar. And hes saying, you know, basically that hes going to support her and hes there for her. And thank you so much for having me as a guest. Since publishing my op-ed, Ive heard from some folks who are in their eighties. AMANDA SHIRES: (Singing) Youre leaving now through the hole of an argument. Not saying something is not helping. My focus stays strong I can work on a song for six or seven hours in one day, and not get bored or tired of it.. And it was a picture of hands holding on to nothing. Jason Isbell and his wife, Amanda Shires, were walking around last weekend in Newport, Rhode Island, where they played the Newport Folk Festival. And from there, he introduced me to Frankie McWhorter. So its probably important to stay alive before you start questioning your liberty.. Isbell said everyone attending the bands shows would also be required to wear a mask. And one day we wound up in the studio and we cut the song. Were you in Texas at the time? I know I can take it like Amanda. And the fallopian tube just cant it it cant expand enough to accommodate a growing fetus. Is there a song that youd like to do? SHIRES: (Singing) Im scared to even say the truth. I like the way these lines kind of happened in our lives and like tributaries in a way that we dont realize are happening. Too caught up in the way I want you rolling over me. I also received responses from trolls. The 100 Best Albums of 2022. For the past decade or so, Amanda Shires has sung about the dark shades of relationships lapsed communication, broken trust, fading intimacy with a devastating eye for detail. Probably nobody enjoys it as much as I do, but its not a necessity for survival. I could tell my milk cow I could tell by the way she lows. In the decade-plus that Shires has been making solo albums in addition to working as a side person with Billy Joe Shaver, Justin Townes Earle and, eventually, her husband and fellow singer-songwriter Jason Isbell she's expressed self-consciousness about the shivers and tremors in her singing voice, tried to smooth them out of her delivery and ultimately embraced its untameness. I still miss the way you lean in. And it was much safer for us to sleep in the closet with the TV at the bail bonding place than to be left to her own devices at home. "Maybe it was circumstance, but I saw my chance and I took it," she boasts, her tone fuzzed-out by distortion. Some of the reason [The Problem] is only coming out now is fear on my part, and Ill admit that. And I dont know. And then coupled with the pandemic and all that, he was on self-preservation mode, and I was too. See where your favorite artists and songs rank on the Rolling Stone Charts. And then you also get to play you get to improvise, which is when you go off the page, as they say, or you just play what you feel within the chords. Related Or is this through listening to his records that you feel like youre his disciple? Amanda Shires' To the Sunset comes out Aug. 3. That last talk left me a makeup rainbow of tears, turned everything blurry. And Milk Cow Blues goes like this. I am Terry Gross. 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Singer, songwriter and fiddle player Amanda Shires still remembers the moment she fell in love with the fiddle. When we left off, we were talking about when Shires was 15 and started playing fiddle with the Texas Playboys, which used to be Bob Wills band. Im Terry Gross, and this is FRESH AIR. Click the audio link above to get the full experience, On channeling her feelings about her marriage into writing Fault Lines and showing it to Isbell, I went and I sat down in my barn of internal wandering, and this is after some kind of nebulous argument, and I wrote Fault Lines and then I texted it to him, just like youd imagine, I said, I just wrote this song. And then in my mind I thought, Well, if he couldnt hear the frequency of my voice before, maybe he could hear it through music, you know? So heres my guest, Amanda Shires, and Jason Isbell singing her song, The Problem.. This part of my life and our marriage was difficult and it took me back to the reason I came to writing and doing music in the first place, which is expression, she says. GROSS: The bail bondsmen are often their offices are often located in a very low-rent part of town. Tomorrow on FRESH AIR, well talk about the power, promise and potential harm of YouTube. The election is November 8. Jason Isbell will put his tour on hold after announcing he tested positive with for COVID-19. Can you play something that you think kind of epitomizes the style that you learned and fell in love with? So Im going to ask you to play one more song from your new album, to perform it for us. Shires, who was touring with the Texas Playboys when she was still a teenager, has a sense of responsibility thats been good for him, he says. And it took me back to the reason I came to writing and doing music in the first place, which is expression and trying to do something for me that could make me make sense, I guess. We found out that, yes, our grandmothers are pro-choice. I would she would set us up in the in the closet of the bail bonds office. SHIRES: I mean, I think theyre pretty good. (In "Wasn't I Paying Attention," a tale of dramatically staged, small-town suicide, for example, the way she sings the word "attention" amplifies the narrator's unsettled state.) She has a big conscience, a big heart. And she would dance a little bit to the Beatles and stuff and started seeing the possibility that she might go into music one day. SHIRES: No, not until a couple of years ago. I was lucky. I would like to think that fans can hold their role models and their favorite musicians accountable. 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When her distinctive vibrato appears on To the Sunset, as a subtle emotive tool or punctuation in her storytelling, it feels like an electrical charge shuddering through the live wire of her voice. It made me think, You know, I bet our grandmothers are more pro-choice than everybody leads us to believe.. When do you show him the songs? Shes not really a rock & roll kid, for lack of a better term. And if you want another kind of love, Ill wear a mask for you. And for a lot of folks, that can be the most boring part of the three-part string ensemble thing. Its you, Brandi Carlile, Natalie Hemby, Maren Morris. When youre trying to make a tough decision, you need a lot of support. Trouble, trouble, trouble, trouble, trouble. In Portland, he led the band (including his wife on fiddle) through charging, heartfelt songs that often sounded like the cavalry was coming. So either you have surgery or I think you die. I know what the cost is in the octaves of consequence. How are we going to police that? If youre just joining us, my guest is songwriter, singer and musician Amanda Shires. On Shires' latest record, her songwriting is more fearless and vulnerable than ever but as always, it's a reflection of an artist focused intently on community, equality SHIRES: So I thought if I could write a song with my feelings in it, that it might bring him around to the walls that arent really walls that we put ourselves behind sometimes. But his voice is much stronger and clearer than it was in the Truckers. And thats when the fertilized egg stays in the fallopian tube. GROSS: This is FRESH AIR. hide caption. GROSS: And me of you, so thank you. GROSS: Oh, I wish he could have heard you do it. But it was true. She co-founded the country supergroup The Highwomen, which includes Brandi Carlile, Maren Morris and Natalie Hemby. Amid the rise in infections, it was reported last week that one of the worlds most prominent concert promoters, Live Nation, will allow artists performing at its venues to require guests in the U.S. to show proof of vaccination or a negative Covid-19 test. And she came over and I showed her. It was love at first listen. Got myself a breakthrough case of Covid, the Alabama-born artist tweeted Tuesday. Elizaveta Porodina/Courtesy of the artist Its no fun but well be alright.. The Truth About Amanda Shires And Jason Isbell - TheList.com SHIRES: Thats all you have to say? Like, I know that in all of the searching that he did still believe that there was something bigger out there, so I dont have to go trying to learn all these other things. Im so glad you wrote it. The timing of The Problem and the fact that its benefiting the Yellowhammer Fund are both important, as draconian, punitive abortion laws have been enacted in Alabama and neighboring states in the last year. SHIRES: I began writing that song when I did the record My Piece Of Land a long while back. And why did you want to work it into a song? In a new interview, Shires who returns with her latest album Take It Like a Man in July goes deeper into her own experiences and calls on artists, especially those in Nashville, to start using the platforms theyve been given. GROSS: Oh, yeah. And I kept imagining, like, how I had nothing left to give and nothing I could do or say to make anything feel right, like, within me somehow. SHIRES: In 2016, I was going on the road. And as it happened, eventually the auxiliary cable quit working in the van. And I said, I dont know. When the band step back from their microphones to begin the extended breakdown, Isbell smiles like a boy on a great adventure. Shes also one of the founders of the group the Highwomen. Did you actually meet him? "Last night you walked me to my car / You said, 'You won't be getting far before you turn around,'" she sings, her phrasing seesawing and scampering. After trailing off there, she draws a thorny conclusion about the web of intimate, familial dependency: "Maybe being human is an orphaned condition and what's missing isn't what should be found. And it was a Carrie Underwood song from it was, like, six years before that or something. But anyway, he just grabbed my hand and held it. Cookie Settings/Do Not Sell My Personal Information. So when you started taking lessons with Frankie McWhorter and then became part of the band, how much did you know about Bob Wills & The Texas Playboys? Youve been very outspoken about the right to have an abortion. SHIRES: Sure. SHIRES: Oh, yes, Mercy is my daughter. JASON ISBELL: (Singing) What do you want to do? GROSS: Well, I want to take a short break here. Members get extended access to PBS video on demand and more. As they talked, And then, really, while the idea was mine, it wasnt only me that made The Highwomen be a thing. I dont feel like it matches whats going on inside my brain. We just couldnt get along. So lets hear a song about when things werent so all right. Well definitely get to your verse, which is the second one. Roberta Shorrock directs the show. Shed been learning to play classical music on the violin at school when her music teacher introduced her to some of Frankie McWhorters fiddle tunes. And then, we did it, sing the song. If you want a driver, climb inside or only want to take me for a ride, you know you can. Where are our Nashville folks? And even on the charts, theres one spot usually I think in 2016, there was 13% representation of women to men on country radio, and now it still sits pleasantly at 16% on a good week. Tommy Duncan was the singer. And, you know, she. On August 9, 2021 my fallopian tube ruptured. And I know that Jasons platform is bigger than mine. So I started just taking notes on the radio because in 22 songs, [I heard] one womans voice and it was a Carrie Underwood song from six years before that or something. She performs in several settings and has received awards in each of them. And because of that, I felt like we should make it something thats as safe as it can possibly be. But and after you did the main melody part, you get to improvise. When I wrote my first piece for Rolling Stone, Id had an abortion before. Her study essentially proves that when folks cant have an abortion, it affects their mental health, their economic standing, their overall well-being. And she also plays in her husband, Jason Isbells, band. Wade was leaked last month, Amanda Shires shared some personal news on social media. AL.com spoke to Isbell last September about when he decided implementing these COVID restrictions at his shows was the right thing to do, how this stance has affected the relationship with some of his fans, what its like to finally hit the road and play again and what it will take for Alabama to have a change of heart on getting vaccinated. So when I would write the songs, I dont know whats going to come out, but sometimes, it was so I was just so down that the only way I could get better was to take it out on writing a song. They might not have had a voice before or might have been cast out into the streets without any place to sleep had they mentioned it earlier in their lives. With vacations lagging and the dangerous delta variant spreading, the United States is averaging more than 100,000 new cases a day for the first time since early February. Never one to shy away from his beliefs, Isbell implored his fellow man, in Alabama or otherwise, to get vaccinated, that is, if they wanted to see him perform in person, hoping to make a difference. Because thats not how I go into songwriting. I just fell in love with the music, is what happened. (SOUNDBITE OF AMANDA SHIRES SONG, HAWK FOR THE DOVE), GROSS: Our digital media producer is Molly Seavy-Nesper. Here's why. We found all this out afterwards. So I dont have to go trying to learn all these other things. You can say I lost my grip. Isbell took a stand, even facing backlash from his fellow artists. Thank you for your songs. At age 34, hes got the baggy eyes of a man who has spent a lot of time thinking hard late at night. And he married my grandmother. A woman threw a house party with 65 men she matched with on Tinder and Hinge and connected with the man she's been dating for a year. For the latest news, follow us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. Why werent you accepting it? GROSS: Lawrence Rothman produced your new album. Were proud to be from that area. And because I was in the time of my life where I was having a disconnect in my marriage and not feeling great in with music but I discovered that it takes a lot to be vulnerable, and it takes a lot to talk to folks and to understand each other. I think a lot of women are born healers and nurturers. Lawrence Rothman has been a model of self accepting themselves. 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", Shires and Isbell have a toddler daughter together, and thanks to gendered assumptions about the distribution of their parenting duties, Shires has fielded more than her share of questions about how she balances motherhood and music-making. Every one of them except for me survived. And this is basically, like, a country supergroup. After Isbell announced last week that he would require enhanced Covid countermeasures at his show in Austin, Texas, singer-songwriter Marc Broussard took to Twitter to lash out at Isbell, calling him bourgeois and elitist. Broussard asserted, Some working-class fans cant afford the risks associated with either the vaccines or even getting a test, adding, Id rather quit music than become a pawn in the pressure campaign. He did not provide any evidence of the risks he claimed were associated with getting the jab or receiving a test. The former Drive-By Truckers newfound sobriety, a recurring topic of discussion (and of his exceptional songwriting), may have cost him some of his sense of adventure, but it has undoubtedly focused his attention on his craft. We just couldnt get along. Ive found and scrounged and continue to for every interview that hes done in any form, in any language. Theres not a lot of filler, not a lot of songs I would skip through, he says. I would have died had this procedure not been available to me. The players in the band, they took me seriously as a player, but they also understood that I was a kid.. I cant see a thing from here. What didnt I say that could have helped change one mind? I cant live with the idea of not speaking up. Will you look at me the same? GROSS: I think its so interesting that your mother worked as a bail bondsman, not knowing that her own father had spent so much time in prison. The spurs of hip bones Transcript provided by NPR, Copyright NPR. And Natalie said, I want the one about preaching. We have to work hard now to mobilize and help people vote. I guess for awhile youve been looking for the exit. You may opt-out by, U.S. In 2020, The Highwomen won album of the year at the Americana Music Honors & Awards ceremony. And the other parts, youre just kind of asleep. Its yet another thing that, when policing does happen, is going to happen haphazardly and ruin lives. GROSS: This is FRESH AIR. And luckily, my teacher was one of those good and rare teachers that notices when you know, when a student needs a little more help. I said, itd be cool if I was The Highwomen or maybe had a band The Highwomen. So it was just like a week and a half or two weeks afterwards that Texas banned abortion. FRESH AIRs executive producer is Danny Miller. We want to hear it. GROSS: So how seriously were you taken by the musicians in the band? Thank you for performing for us. Im Terry Gross. On August 10, my life was savedthese are some dark days.. I am your man. And I said, OK. And then I fell in love. I own one of his guitars and. And I was really into that. On top of that, Shires notes, the pro-life stance doesnt typically extend past birth. Isbell said he had to cancel his Asheville shows scheduled for Jan. 11-12, but he and his team are working to reschedule shows in Louisville, Columbus, Wilkes-Barre and Wilmington. NASHVILLE, Tenn. (WTVF) Three months after an emergency heart transplant, Grammy-nominated keyboardist, producer, songwriter and artist Peter Levin But I thought, what am I going to do about that, in the event that she does go into country music? A few hours later, his band is peeling the wallpaper with their customary encore cover tune. Here Are The Republicans Who Want Him Kicked Out, Rupert Murdoch Must Tell Fox News Hosts To Stop Spreading Election Lies, Congressional Democrats Demand, Trump Attacks Rupert Murdoch And Fox NewsAgainClaiming Destruction Of America Amid Defamation Lawsuit, These U.S.-Listed Stocks SurgeAlibaba, Baidu And MoreAfter Chinas Economic Rebound, Top NFL Prospect Jalen Carter Charged For Alleged Role In Fatal Street Race, Bite-Sized TikTok Poetry Blows UpAlong With Growing Claims Of Plagiarism, As Delta Variant Spreads, Artists and Venues Scramble to Keep Concerts Safe, Live Nation Allows Artists to Require Vaccination or Proof of Negative Test Result for U.S. Concerts. Amanda Shires appeared on The Late Late Show to perform her recent song Take It Like a Man. Playing with her band, the singer offered an emotive take on the Thats, like, part of your identity on Twitter. GROSS: Were you nervous about being on stage or just about singing? Jason Isbell performs in Gulf Shores, Alabama. I heard witchcraft in the whispers and I knew my time had come. You dont see a lot of men speaking up, and every voice is helpful. He could still leave it dish in the sink, you know? Why was that the verse that you wrote or sang for yourself? "Isn't it just like a daughter to make a fool of you? While the idea was mine, it wasnt only me that made this Highwomen be a thing. And he was there for 25 years. So she did daytime job. I believe thats when that that became not an option. I never wouldve thought that before, but now I know its true. fiddle-playing damn Texan. We try to have as much fun as possible singing a bunch of sad-ass songs, he said from the stage with one of the few grins hed allow himself. The singer, songwriter and fiddler found comfort with an unexpected collaborator and plumbed new depths on her latest album, Take It Like a Man. Amanda SHIRES: I didnt know anything about them. 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