Bender, L.C. Map files expire one year after publishing. Ideal range of mule deer provides both food and cover, with shrublands and woodlands providing the best habitat because they provide both food and cover. Samuel J. Beatty with New Mexicos #1 whitetail deer typical, taken in Colfax County in 2019. Powered by UBB.threads PHP Forum Software 7.7.5. Peaks in mule deer populations in the mid-1900s resulted from obvious and subtle landscape changes associated with human settlement (see, for example, the history in Clements and Young, 1997). In J.C. de Vos, Jr., M.R. Re: New Mexico Unit 21 Mule Deer. HD is a viral disease that affects deer, pronghorn, and bighorn sheep; it is spread by biting gnats or midges (Culicoides spp.). Is anyone familiar with coues densities in unit 23 outside of the Burro Mtn Area? ), B. Neal Ainsworth, Jr. with New Mexico record Rocky Mountain bighorn sheep, taken on Taos Pueblo, in Taos County in 2005. Mule Deer, New Mexico, Unit 23, Rifle Ron Pettibone 21 subscribers Subscribe 22 Share 2.5K views 1 year ago This is a short video that I made from stills from my iPhone on November 8th,. Although predators kill deer, predation may have little effect on the population if predation substitutes for (e.g., is compensatory to) other forms of mortality because deer are in poor condition or otherwise predisposed. draw odds Draw Deadline is March 16 to get your apps in. We have some of the best Mule Deer hunting in the West. Highway 90 runs throughout the middle part of the unit. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Insider Because trophy quality is moderate on this hunt, Non-Residents tend to apply elsewhere, thus the great draw odds. Drove down the highway one night from Reserve and there were tons of deer feeding on the grass next to the highway. NM Coues Deer Unit 23. Guidelines for management of habitat for mule deer: Pion-juniper, Chihuahuan desert, arid grasslands, and associated arid habitat types [Circular 662]. Condition, survival, and cause-specific mortality of mule deer in northcentral New Mexico. The does are receptive for about three days. (Photograph courtesy of the Boone and Crockett Club), NM record nontypical Coues deer, taken in Hidalgo County by Peter M. Chase, 1941. The most common sign of deer use of an area is their tracks. Contact Us | Their daily intake varies from 0 to 1 1/2 quarts per 100 pounds of body weight. The minimum score for a typical elk to be considered for the All-Time Awards Book is 375. The total number of permits for each hunt should be considered before applying. 2023 Rifle Antelope Tag Unit 3/301 PLO 2 Ranches. Short video with information on hunting New Mexico's late archery hunt in unit 20 Common foods in northern New Mexico include aspen, chokecherry, oaks, bearberry, bitterbrush, mountain mahogany, and most other shrubs in the rose family (Rosaceae). During their first few days, they remain hidden and alone except when feeding (Figure 4). The deposit required to secure this mule deer hunt is $500. Post The cost for the quality, high demand and quality/high demand hunts is higher than it is for the standard license. Most of the remainder of the diet is forbs, and grasses and succulents (e.g., cacti) usually contribute much less than 10% seasonally. Those private land licenses are only valid on the private land that permission was granted, but this is still a good way to secure an antelope license. Hike and get away from them and You mite find a good Buck. The December hunt would fall in the "Trophy" category. How are the deer? The later months from April to July are more critical for mass and some length below the prong. As you review the odds, youll see that in 2022, there were 102 hunts and, for nonresidents, there were only 52 hunts that offered a permit that could actually be drawn. Looking for current info on the area around Alma. Be aware that mule deer and Coues deer are not separate applications/species. New Mexico will not over allocate the license quota to cover a group application. Nonresidents should not apply for hunts that they have no chance of drawing! For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. We offer rifle, archery, and muzzleloader hunts for mule deer with an abundance of trophies on our properties. . I have the same archery tag. same hunt in 23 and 24- same time ????????? When a deer browses, a characteristic stub remains (Figure 5). For example, if an application with two people is drawn and there is only one license remaining, then that application will be rejected or if a nonresident and a resident apply together and there are not enough nonresident licenses, neither the resident or nonresident will be given a license. During winter, deer that use higher elevations usually migrate to lower elevations where food is more easily obtainable and deep snow does not limit their movements. Because of the way New Mexico conducts their draw, there is some strategy in how you stagger your hunt choices. Horses, Hunting, Fishing, Martial Arts and History. Fort Collins: U.S. Forest Service, Rocky Mountain Research Station. Mule deer (Odocoileus hemionus, Figure 1) are one of the most important game animals in New Mexico and the West. When reswallowed, it passes through the other chambers of the stomach and on through the digestive system. Reactions: Knight.54. NM unit 45 youth mule deer hunt. They lose their spots two to three months after they are born. 6. mule deer by BloodhoundBrother Tue Aug 25, 2009 3:16 pm, Post Bear Mgmt Zones Game Mgmt Units Cougar Mgmt Zones Navajo Big Game Units The #1 GPS Hunting App 975 million acres of public land 10,668 unique hunting units 421 map overlays and counting If your first hunt choice had better odds than your second and third choice, you are essentially wasting those choices. You can hunt New Mexico Mule Deer with us October - January Price Includes: 5 Day Hunt Meals & Accommodations Guide Services 50% hunt deposit due at time of successful draw Book Your Hunt 1 Hunter / 1 Guide 2023 Deer Hunt Draw $6,949/Hunter + tax Price Includes: 5 Day Hunt Meals & Accommodations Guide Services You agree you accept our Terms & Conditions for posting this ad. I was watching a truck on the road with two bowhunters in the bed doing about 10 mph. New Mexicos antler growth in most areas of the state is directly tied to the quality of the feed derived from winter, spring and early summer moisture. This unit does have some hunting pressure on the public grounds, but those who are able and willing to put in the work have found success here in past years. We highly recommend that you do not include fourth and fifth choices unless you are willing to accept any leftover license. Drew a whitetail tag for that unit, and have never hunted it before. I drew an elk archery tag down there so I should do some scouting before September and I can tell you what I see for deer. Use the table below to cross reference with the total number of licenses to ensure the hunts you are applying for will have enough licenses. If you spray a cotton ball with elk or deer urine and pin it to your clothes you are legal, take it off and pin it to a tree you are illegal. Harvest reporting is mandatory, even if you do not harvest. west of sunflower mesa to the az line is good. I've hunted that unit 3 times. Nonresidents can draw up to 6% of the permits for each hunt. research Only show this user. This means that every applicant is on an equal playing field to draw even if this is the first year they are applying in New Mexico. Mule deer inhabit virtually all habitat types in the unit. It was my first time putting in for an out of state tag so I'm going to assume the odds were not that bad if I got one first time. You must log in or register to reply here. See more about the Big Game Records Program. The average lifespan of bucks is shorter than does, especially in areas of heavy hunting pressure. We have never been to that area and plan on putting in several days of scouting before the season opens. Just wonderin if anybody out here has hunted this unit and might be curtious enought to point me in a general direction. Real close to Tucson but closer to the new mexico border. We also highly recommend unit 31, unit 32, and unit 33 as we have private ranches there with some great deer quality! Late archery: 20% Muzzleloader: 35% Rifle: 64%, Archery: 50% Muzzleloader: 50% Rifle: 83%, Archery: 8% Late archery: 39% Muzzleloader: 12% Rifle: 33% Rifle: 52% Rifle: 55%, Archery: 17% Late archery: new Muzzleloader: 22% Rifle: 32%. Media | When predation is additive to other mortality factors, then predation can limit deer populations. When is your hunt? JavaScript is disabled. The draw is completely random. Hunting New Mexico has never been better! This late-season opportunity overlaps the beginning of the Mule Deer rut and the higher deer activity lends itself tremendously to the increased quality. Reserve, NM, Total Acreage: 1,875,000 acres over 2,930 square miles, Total Public Land: 1,200,000 acres or 63%, Land Ownership Mix: 37% Private; 63% Public; USFS: 443,776 acres; USFS Wilderness: 29,184 acres; BLM: 329,472 acres; State: 412,096 acres; Other Govt. GOHUNT is a registered trademark of GOHUNT, LLC. You are using an out of date browser. In the case that residents and nonresidents apply together, nonresident licenses are pulled from the nonresident quota. I drew a Sept. coues deer tag in 23. Both residents and nonresidents can apply in the guide draw, but they must have a signed guide/client agreement to do so. That was his job for the week. There are three main highways in unit 23. The unit has somewhat of a cult like dedication from Resident hunters, despite the fact that it is not well known for big giant deer. Looking for some feedback on the unit. But have seen a few decent ones. If all goes according to plan I am going to draw a deer tag for unit 23. It will just require booking with an outfitter or really digging into land ownership and making cold calls. By You will be refunded the cost of the antelope license if you are unsuccessful in the draw. The size of the mule deer population in New Mexico is unknown, and densities of mule deer can vary greatly among areas and over time. This is the case for southern states and moisture is much more critical in these areas than it is in states north of their borders. Contact us to book your hunt! Before applying for one of these hunts, its worth researching GOHUNT Maps and reviewing the land ownership layers to see if those are viable DIY options. A check for $40 to cover the non-refundable entry fee. Currently, New Mexico offers unlimited antelope private land permits. If selected, all applicants on the application would receive a license provided there are enough licenses to offer one to each applicant. I did find deer but I don't know what the crowds are like once the season starts. Every year we have clients take several nice trophy mule deer. ready to see some new country though and ready for some adventure!! Highway 180 runs throughout the east, near the Arizona state line. There is no odds advantage to applying as a party. CWD, a transmissible spongiform encephalopathy, is very rare in New Mexico and is limited to portions of the San Andres, Organ, and Sacramento Mountains. Never hunted down in that part of New Mexico. 2. A high demand hunt is a hunt where the total number of applicants for a hunt exceeds 22% of the total applicants based on the draw for the two years prior. I use to hunt 24 pretty hard just to the east. I just bought the same tag. Compared to the two previous years, 2023 is lining up to be a great antler growth year. I was with a friend who shot an average 4x4 last year (about 23" inside spread), and if memory serves, it went 190 field dressed, which was heavy enough by the end of a two-mile drag. 2012. Unsuccessful applicants in the draw will have the license fees reimbursed minus the hunting license and application fees. Please hunt responsibly, obey all signage and have a safe legal hunt. The breeding season or rut for mule deer in New Mexico begins in late November (northern areas of the state) and lasts until mid-January (southern areas). But unit 24 is all new to me? does anyone have any experience with the private land owners in the unit? . It simply just isn't the norm. Populations of antelope are not nearly as strong as they are in other states like Wyoming, Montana or even Colorado, but once again, the potential for an 80+ buck is good. Jason Herrick, CA (805) 570-9502. 1 of 2 Go to page. Range conditions should be much better this year and antelope bucks should experience an excellent growth year. Utah took advantage of a combination of favorable weather, aggressive habitat management, and strict regulations to increase its mule deer population by as much as 100,000 from 2008 to 2016, pushing the size of the herd past 380,000 animals. Clearly focused, close-up photographs of the front, left side, and right side of your trophys antlers or horns or tusks. The lower elevations of unit 23 consist of flat desert-like grassland with some brush and trees. Posts: 14,104. Excited for the challenge. 4 Wheeling, Aviation, Hunting, Fishing, Golf, Muscle Cars.Jeep Wranglers. New Mexico has areas that meet these criteria and the bulk of the bigger bucks that are coming out of New Mexico that are outside of the well known hunts are coming from those areas areas that have good habitat/feed and provide refuge from other hunters. For hunters who hunt with an outfitter who has access to private lands or are able to obtain permission to hunt private land, they can simply buy a permit over-the-counter (OTC) from the New Mexico Game and Fish Department (NMGFD). Probably the most publicized diseases of mule deer are the epizootic hemorrhagic disease-bluetongue complex (collectively called hemorrhagic disease [HD]) and chronic wasting disease (CWD). The antlers are shed following the breeding season each winter, and new antlers begin growing shortly after the old ones are dropped. The draw odds for these late season hunts are very long, typically 1% or less, but for those who do draw a tag and have the time to hunt, there are good opportunities for 170+ bucks. There will be lots of road hunters but it's not hard to get away from them. An original score chart signed and dated by an official B&C measurer. He earned his Ph.D. from Michigan State University. Hunting is the main source of mortality for adult bucks, and control of hunting seasons is used to manage mule deer populations in New Mexico. Thread starter CouesKelly; Start date Apr 26, 2020; 1; 2; Next. I drew New Mexico 2C Mule Deer this year (2022), I'd welcome the opportunity to discuss your hunt experience in the unit last year. Many portions of the unit where Mule deer live are definitely not "desert" habitats, aside from the southern fifth near Roosevelt Lake. The resident deer populations of these areas are not high, but in a year when snow and cold temperatures occur, it can improve the migration from Colorado to these areas in New Mexico and the hunting can be really good. Up to 6% of the licenses for each hunt can be allocated to nonresidents in the draw. Go. Send me a PM. thanks for the info. Can anyone tell me anything about the unit? how are you and your wife going to both hunt in the two units ? The dark brown scat of mule deer is usually found in clumps. Location: Arizona New Mexico Unit 23,24 Mule deer by thedesertbuck Fri Jun 23, 2006 8:09 pm Well looks like me and the wife both drew a New mexico 23, 24 Mule deer tag. About Us | The best hunts for trophy caliber mule deer bucks have been the late season hunts in the northwestern corner of the state. These changes have driven deer populations down because they have greatly reduced both the amount and quality of mule deer habitat. The Chronic Wasting Disease Alliance website (www.cwd-info.org) is an excellent source for up-to-date information regarding CWD and its management. Well found out the hard way to not tag onto someone else's app that doesn't know what they're doing. A characteristic feature of the mule deer is the large white rump patch that surrounds the base of the tail. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Then PM me and I would be willing to chat about some early season coues deer behavior/patterns with you. Bartos, D.L. . Next Last. Just got a left over tag for Muzzleloader deer in Unit 21Lived in souteast New Mexico All my life and hunted there. How are the deer? Well, that hunt was a bust. $$$$. Bender, L.C., L.A. Lomas, and J. Browning. Apr 26, 2020 #1 CouesKelly Well-known member . Mule Deer, Having hunted NM sandhill deer for 20 plus years, I would guess a fairly big deer would go about 250 field dressed there. Feed is always important to horn/antler growth and antelope are selective feeders. New Mexico is an excellent trophy state for antelope, but getting a license can be hard for DIY draw hunters. anyone every been allowed on property if asked permission? Mule deer may also stot, or bounce stiff-leggedly on all four legs, when fleeing. Consider these factors as you look at the individual units. Desert mule deer are usually lighter or paler than Rocky Mountain mule deer. With only 10 tags available for 2022 it makes for a once-in-a-lifetime hunt. but that might be excluded from 23, have to check the rules. . NM unit 23 Deer o2bwest Apr 15, 2014 Help Support Long Range Hunting Forum Become a supporting member O o2bwest Well-Known Member Joined Jul 25, 2012 Messages 152 Location Texas Apr 15, 2014 #1 If all goes according to plan I am going to draw a deer tag for unit 23. Here is a list of Official Measurers you may contact to have your trophy officially scored. Rocky Mountain mule deer are found in the northern two-thirds of the state and desert mule deer in the southern third. 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