Offers may be subject to change without notice. She later explained to . Its sort of fun, Mandel says. Because if she doesnt go all in on that job, then it makes the decision to perhaps having had the abortion more wrong for her. I mean, its all new people. Has he forgiven her? He had all the designer clothes and was always clean-shaven, because God forbid he look like crap compared to her. 2023 Oscars predictions: See who will win at the 95th Academy Awards. Right before she hit the stage in Charlotte to accept her party's nomination for president, she tried to prepare Gary for what was about to hit him, while he tried to prepare her for the spotlight with a special lipstick. Even as Pullman Company and railroad workers were striking, Congress passed legislation in June 1894 making the first Monday in September a federal legal . Ethan has it all thought out: Jonah, given his cancer scare and his ability to relate to the American people (because were all Jonahs, really), becomes one of the rising stars within the party and easily wins re-election in the midterms. Thats what was so beautiful about the way Dave [Mandel] wrote and directed the episode. A lot of these stories go back to when I and the new writers came into the show. And you got to us, and it was the clip of Selina yelling at Penny Nickerson from Congressional Ball, and she just tears into her and her dress, and how shes gonna shake her district like a nanny from South America, and up her husbands ass with cancer, all this stuff. But I think for Amy, who was all in on Jonah for a variety of reasons some of which were the decisions shed made in her life in the sense of she chose work over possibly a family and then when you make a decision like that, she had to double down with Jonah. We talked a lot about a more standard ending, if you will, where Selina is right about to become president and then she was going to do some of the same things offer Jonah the Vice Presidency. I didnt say it was Tom Hanks specifically but I said I hope he digs it because theres a pretty cool nod to the pilot. ANALYZING THE ANSWERS: While multiple fans would enjoy seeing Gary sleep with a Russian spy (Oh lord, Mandel says), Cecille had another idea for him: Gary actually quitting or getting fired from his post? I think maybe what you were expecting is her almost being dismissive of Kent and ready to jump in. Im just now thinking about this, but I think during those 20 years, there was probably a good five years in the beginning that he thought she was going to change her mind and wake up and realize how special he was to her. I think in some ways she found herself a sort of Dan-esque guy. Politically-Correct Reaction: "Veep" focused on the unwanted secrets of its staff in "East Wing." Selina and Gary's Labor Day-set secret may have taken center stage, but plot threads . Oh my God, he could end up as Its sort of like she had put it to bed and realizes now it could be even realer, and then realizing, Oh. Any kind of obscenities that have been thrown at him from her, he just doesnt hear it. We even had a [scene], it just didnt quite exactly work, where she was watching the funeral, sort of laughing. Labor Day represented the "reentry" into city life and the retirement of white summer clothes after a summer of leisure for the upper classes, Steele says. ANALYZING THE ANSWERS: Fans had many suggestions: a job with least or no stress, like ticket salesman to a museum which no one visits; a tired-but-friendly high school teacher who interacts well with the students (because doesnt do his job and doesnt teach); Uber driver who keeps trying to show you photos of his children; shift supervisor at a small-town grocery store; food critic, Daily Mail journalist, Trump PR team; Boat rental, he seems really into boats; or babysitting both humans and pets. [Laughs] In Garys world, I always had this vision that he comes home at night and says into a recordereverything that is in the bag. But its still Catherine. So for him to lay the lipstick on the casket? And did he have any say on his old-age look?At some point or another, we found out that he had to approve everything. Among the who's-who . Copyright 2023 Meredith Corporation. ANALYZING THE ANSWERS: Please. She is everything that is bad about politics: no real vision or drive to lead via policy decisions. I think Isles is clearly smarter. So again, it wouldve been Jonahs fault that she didnt get what she wanted. Do you haveconfidence in new showrunner, [Curb Your Enthusiasm EP]David Mandel? So hell blow up at Dan or Jonah, but never Selina. "You'd hate the flowers but I I brought the Dubonnet," he says to her flag-draped coffin, a cocktail of emotions flooding his weary voice. Maybe that will be the next Veep spin well do a Christmas Carol thing with Selina and shell be visited by all the ghosts and the ghost of Christmas past will show her what shes done to Gary. Was one of the messages of the finale, If you have been rooting for Selina all along, you chose very poorly, and were here to not-gently remind you of that?That is the wonderful thing. The very first Labor Day in the country was celebrated in 1882, and it became an official federal holiday in 1894. Mike says Tom won four Oscars, so was the fourth for Philadelphia 2?You think so? Labor Day vs. May Day . How does he view her now? "Because she's in the casket. It was so satisfying on so many levels. That would have been the running joke, that everybody else got scanned but shes the only actual competent one. Shell carry forth, but that moment in the White House is the punishment. Anytime someone leaves the room, as far as Im concerned, those ghosts of Christmas past will be there. April 28, 2017, 12:21 PM. This was a really [important] scene, and we wanted to make sure it gelled, so we worked on it in for a while to find the flow of it. It just suddenly washed over her what a terrible idea this was, and what she hath wrought?Yeah. At what price victory? ", Filming that pivotal sell-out scenein which Selina knows that the end is nigh for Garywas challenging for both actors, given the weight of the moment (and the fact that this would be the last scene in which Louis-Dreyfus and Hale shared the screen). And it really plays with your emotions, because you start to realize, But I was clapping earlier, but now Im sad that shes doing this to Gary. And that is the conundrum of her, and I love that it puts the viewer in knots in a really hopefully good way. Entertainment Weekly may receive compensation for some links to products and services on this website. What else could she do that would be even worse than breaking up with Jaffar? Throughout their 12-year marriage, Andrew was always . We should also point out that as shes kicking these people out of the office, were ending in a White House where, yes, Sue is outside, but in her inner circle, theres nobody there from the old show. Desperate to find a fall guy for her scandals with the Meyer Fund and illicit ties to the Chinese government (whom she actively courted to meddle in the election), Selina chose the best man(child) for the job: poor, naive Gary. And I know some people were thinking, like, Oh, is he the one thats going to bring her down, or anything like that? I guess I enjoyed the idea that the threat was in the air. Except the desired outcome would be the opposite: wed be holding our breath to see if Jonah would escape danger but wed be super upset and disappointed each time he survived, MANDEL RESPONDS: Thatd be very funny, he says of having a Carrie-type crier. In this hilarious clip from HBO's "Veep " Selina (Julia Louis Dreyfus) and Gary (Tony Hale) finally have a blowout and essentially reset their relationship. !, Matt Walsh) was about to deliver a heartfelt eulogy about Selina to his viewers, but in the ultimate karmic-cruel joke, he had to cut his report short to cover more important breaking news: the death of Tom Hanks. In the United States, Peter J. McGuire, a union leader who had founded the United Brotherhood of Carpenters in 1881, is generally given credit for the idea of Labor Day. The people she banned are now there. The country is just waking up to how cherished she is. What did Gary do for Selina on labor day that he referenced to in season 4? "Today the world mourns the loss of this towering and beloved figure," intoned Mike, and as he moved to face the wrong camera, the last words by a character on Veep were spoken: "Let's take a look at the storied career of Tom Hanks, American icon. They are looking to Veep for a little bit of comedy, because he makes them so nervous, he says. Because its HBO, and its Veep, theres a tendency for the actors and the writers to just throw in the casual that f***king thing because you can. He was the one who believed the most in the purity and potential of government. Is there any world where you do a spinoff or movie or continue this character in some way? This shouldnt be.. We didnt know if it would happen, and certainly everything would have worked without. MANDEL RESPONDS: Its interesting. Thats Washington D.C. for you District of C***s!, MANDEL RESPONDS: Theyre not wrong, he says. It was not lasting remorse. I still love it so much. The way that I was surprised, actually, is that even though Selina would never admit it, I do feel like she subconsciously thought she needed Gary around her at all times. She has to be thinking, This is bad right now and this is a little bit bad for me, but I dont think she can be thinking about how horrific the rest of her life is going to be. Because that moment she realized she wasnt going to have to change it to something else. "There was just an enormous amount of restraint. I wish in retrospect, we had managed to put maybe one, or two other clues along the way But there is no answer. TVLINE | Did you and Julia spend a lot of time working on the scene to get it just right? Hell hath no fury like a perpetually under-appreciated, eternally abused and currently . There was a sense of, we are going to shine a comic light on this stuff, and were going to do it fast and furiously, so thats number one. Ive said this before, but its like a dog returning to his vomit. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Catherine does go kind of the full Claire Danes. As for the others: I understand the Jonah one, but I think theres an opportunity if youre the right person. They bring up that something happened to the point where Gary will never speak of it and it stops Selina's rage mid-sentence. MANDEL RESPONDS: I think that speaks to whats going on in America, to the anti-intellectualization, he says. But if you watch when he talks about how she wouldve hated the flowers, theres an anger there. Lets start by cutting to an interview with Veep showrunner and finale writer/director David Mandel, who takes you inside Selinas savage send-off. I think there was something very funny to me that somehow you end up with him and Spiro Agnew in the same historical footnote. MANDEL RESPONDS: As far as Gary and Selina parting ways, We think about that. I know people have been waiting for it. I agree [about Danny Chung] youd get very sick of hearing about a tank and stuff. And in this case, she didnt even say it, she had the FBI guys come and grab me. As Erica Macy-Lesperance wrote, I wouldnt want Veep to air on a regular network because I dont want to lose any of Selinas colorful vocabulary. He knows all the skeletons. This core in him that really cared about her, and really loved her and saw something else that other people didn't see. says the actress. And I do think in some ways getting away from her mother was the best thing that ever happened to her. MANDEL RESPONDS: I just make it a policy never to say Annas last name, he says. I like to think its a credit to Armando [Iannucci, the shows creator] and the previous writers, and my current writers, that we can make you root for a terrible person. But if you remember back from the flashbacks, you get the sense theres a reason she couldnt completely get him out of her life and vice versa. Speaking of emotional moments, Selina had an unconventional father-figure moment with Ben [Kevin Dunn] after his heart attack. As the bagman to the politician, Hales Gary Walsh is in her ear, primping her body and miming her every move always one heartbeat away from the woman he has long served. '", The scene, which illustrated the karmic punishment that had been meted out to her, served as an appropriate cautionary ending to a show steeped in corrosive cynicism and selfishness, according to Hale. Not to keep it Francis Ford Coppola [the director of The Godfather trilogy who also directed Apocalypse Now], but The horror, the horror. And the realization of: so alone. Like she instinctively yelled out for Gary and then realizes it. "When somebody else comes to her, it was so hard to watch that and not run to her," shares Hale. So, I guess because of his simplicity, dare I say, I dont blame him quite as much as I blame her. Hed love to be a food critic. TVLINE | Do you think she backs down out of fear that Gary might use this information to hurt her? (Photo: HBO) It's been a well-received season of change for HBO's Veep, but as we found out when we posed showrunner David Mandel . In many places, workers toiled for at least 12 hours a day . The gut-punch of a betrayal played out in the present-day ending of Sundays series finale, which then jumped ahead 24 years to former President Meyers funeral. Entertainment Weekly is a registered trademark of Meredith Corporation All Rights Reserved. Julia Louis-Dreyfus as Selina Meyer. Louis-Dreyfus uses the words "pretty intense" to describe that moment. Louis-Dreyfus said she believed something crosses Selinas eyes of perhaps remorse and love for Gary in their goodbye. That they murdered somebody just too easy," Mandel says. He has no personal identity, so Selina becoming president is like getting the key and him becoming president. Not sensing any approaching doom, Gary asked if she wanted coffee from across the street and pointed out that it was a chia seed in her mouth. Did he give up because he was defeated and heartbroken, or because he wanted to make this sacrifice for her? Ben (Kevin Dunn) has been dead! And in some ways, perhaps even some of the postpartum depression was ultimately all really connected to Selina To me, the day they walked out of that convention, in the cab to the airport, she probably surprised Marjorie by laughing at something. But then when he gets out and she dies, his entire identity was based in her, so her dying meant that a portion of him was also dying. No votes? Klicken Sie auf Einstellungen verwalten um weitere Informationen zu erhalten und Ihre Einstellungen zu verwalten. Quotes like, Thats the least reassuring sentence since Its OK, its just the tip! Ming Nguyen said, She showed a hint of being a good person in [the abortion episode] The Choice in Season 3. Was the attitude in the writers room this season one of The cruelty, ignorance and hypocrisy in this world needs an equal and opposite force more than ever, or was it Its our last season, so lets adopt a scorched Earth policy, or maybe a bit of both?I go for a little bit of both, and Ill throw a third thing in. We, I dont want to say padded, because my guess is he could end up with more. So yeah, there was just a lot of joy. The idea of winning for both the original and then the sequel, thats cool. : r/Veep - Reddit; 2.Veep Post Mortem: Tony Hale Talks Gary and Selina's Epic - TVLine (An earlier version of the script had him saying that she looked stunning.) Yes. Theseries finale betrayal was heartbreaking to watch. In one way, their bond can never be broken, and he will always have some measure of twisted devotion to her. And I do think oftentimes in peoples lives they have a father figure but dont quite realize its their father figure until a certain moment comes. Maybe, just maybe obviously with all the people from the measles, maybe people will start to go, Well, wait a second, if they were right about vaccines, maybe they were right about the climate.. She, more than anyone, could leave and walk away, and doesnt. Veep Post Mortem: Tony Hale Talks Gary and Selina's Epic Clash, Sheds Light on 'Labor Day' Mystery. . So we were actually in the sound mix of the episode when we were told this. "For twentysomething years, he had lived in this fantasy and it shook him, and hopefully it woke him out of that to where he can begin living his life. Andrew owns a large company, which is revealed to have funded both sides of the 2012 presidential election. TVLINE | Were you surprised by Garys outburst? Read on to see how fans answered Mandels queries, as well as his reactions to the most popular responses (including the Labor Day theories he shot down). At turns heartbreaking and hilarious, the showdown expertly acted by Emmy winners Julia Louis-Dreyfuss and Tony Hale dramatically altered the power dynamic between the two characters, while also setting up a doozy of a mystery: What did Selina do on that fateful Labor Day, and how exactly didGary cover (or clean) it up? He wasnt there to make some deal. Pam Grier reflects on her most iconic roles, from. Early in the season, you gave us a tantalizing and terrifying clue about Labor Day, one in which we learned that it was not a day but a boat, which sends the brain to awful places, along the lines of Natalie Wood or Chappaquiddick. On the other hand, he seems completely broken, defeated, and a little bitter. I root for her because of amazing acting by her actor. Or, put more bluntly by Eman Abdelmouty: Shes the absolute worst. It was fantastic. And did you initially try to get her back for more episodes this season?I think at some point there was a thought of seeing her back in the Montez [Andrea Savage] days, season 6. Plus, he has that weird nickname, Buttf***er.'. When watching Veep, Tony Hale can perennially be spotted over the shoulder of Julia Louis-Dreyfus starring character Selina Meyer. She could be a fierce fighter for womens rights and equality. Sydney Grullon spoke more generally: I dont think shes inherently awful, I think deep down she thinks what shes doing is good, at least what she was doing while in office. Prakram Bhushan, meanwhile, was incredibly specific: Selina is a good lover. He was ready to do whatever she asked. I feel like the possibility of Jonahs impending death would be just as nerve-racking as all the times Quinn was in danger. Minus the now-deceased Ben (Kevin Dunn), the gang was all there, including two-term President Richard Splett (!, Sam Richardson) and ex-con Gary, who placed the Dubonnet lipstick that they had been saving for a special occasion on her casket. Subscribe for full access to The Hollywood Reporter. But I kinda like the idea of finding out more, so well see what happens., Source: https://www.yahoo.com/tv/veep-showrunner-david-mandel-responds-labor-day-theories-162157120.html. Daten ber Ihr Gert und Ihre Internetverbindung, wie Ihre IP-Adresse, Browsing- und Suchaktivitten bei der Nutzung von Yahoo Websites und -Apps. Yet, Catherine seemed happier for it. Youd hate the flowers, he said, in an unusually seething manner, before adding, but I brought the Dubonnet.Gary then placed the lipstick he had saved for Selinas nomination night on top of her casket. Weve been gone a year, and were back, and were not taking any prisoners. My story is that Im super bummed its over! 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", And Veep truly came full circle in the final seconds of the episode, as CBS Evening News anchor (!) The government shutdown episode. The holiday falls on the first Monday of . During her desperate, obsessive drive to return to . But this is a woman at the end of the day that has sacrificed everythingeverythingto be in this office. To read what Louis-Dreyfus and Hale thought of Selinas betrayal of Gary, head over here. Welcome to the Quantum Realm. Mike gives a morning press briefing about Selina's first state visit from the Israeli Prime Minister. Not Julia, but Selina is like, 'I'm not going to look like s---!' Their only daughter, Catherine Meyer, was born in 1994. MANDEL RESPONDS: It doesnt surprise me that people like Mother. I love Mother. I guess it surprises me that it was such a clear winner, just because its that typical sort of thing its hard to pick among your children, as they say. But dont we already have Catherine? And so, Julia e-mailed him, and then we got back this very quick auto-response, that was like, Im traveling. Im just not sure either of them has the ability to get to that step. And I think Mother fits into that world. If he had to single out a personal favorite, it would be Kissing Your Sister, just because he had so much fun directing it. I doubt we ever find out. A cautionary tale for 2020, this season was simply darker and more brutal than ever. Were you surprised? Between Sarah Sutherlands Emmy worthy ugly crying and JLDs Emmy-winning performance, I cry from laughter every time I watch this episode. 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