View the profiles of people named Ermelinda Thomas. And here's your key." Whatever happened in those early hours, one thing is indisputable: Kristin Smart has never been seen again. So, I said, "you better turn some lights on right now and let me out or I'm going to scream." The Lassisters say soon after, strange postcards began showing up in their mailbox. I said, Stop it. FBI via AP, File. Just five months before Kristin disappeared, San Luis Obispo Police received a call from a student living off campus. Flores and Smart were both 19-year-old freshmen Cal Poly students who attended the same party the night she vanished, on May 25, 1996. She was looking forward to hearing from Kristin that Sunday. Margarita Campos: Kristin was like, "come on, let's go, let's go." But Flores' basketball friends told investigators that he already had the. He was the last person seen with her. I guess you can call it little white lies, Flores told detectives. He promised the Smarts that solving Kristin's case would be a priority. Stop! and then it became Stop!!!!!. By the end of the evening she was found passed out on the lawn next door and needed help to get back to the dorm. Margarita Campos: they were, like, "are you sure she didn't go out of town?" James Murphy: That suggests that something bad happened in Paul Flores's dorm room. Lindsey Smart Stewart: She definitely, like, took advantage of life, seized the day she was super ambitious and was determined you know, to find the next adventure. I wasnt freaked out.. Jonathan Vigliotti [with Lambert outside of the the dorms]: Paul and Kristin then make their way here. It wasn't until Kristin's roommate returned to their dorm room, that Margarita realized Kristin never came home. D.A. Still she stuck around until Flores allegedly laid his hands on her aggressively again. We are grateful to these brave women for having the courage to talk about their experiences and we ask anyone who may have information they think could be helpful to contact the San Luis Obispo County Sheriffs Office. In March 2021, the San Luis Obispo County Sheriff's Office served a search warrant at the Arroyo Grande home of Ruben Flores. To declare to the public if you stay quiet, you will get away with this. Chris Lambert spoke with some women who knew Flores back then. Im fine. You never look at her again! Resides in Blue Bell, PA. Kristin Smart Murder Trial: Who's who The judge only allowed 1 media pool camera inside the courtroom. He says "no.". That witness initially came forward to Chris Lambert, who passed the information to the sheriff's office and Murphy. Prosecutors Think Paul Flores Tried to Rape Kristin Smart in Dorm Room Before Killing Her On April 13, Paul's father, Ruben Flores, 80, was also arrested and charged with being an accessory. Susan Flores and her boyfriend were never charged in the case. And when they did . / CBS News, (This story previously aired on May 8, 2021. Clockwise from left, Kristin, Denise, Stan, Matt and Lindsey. Used to live: San Luis Obispo CA, Arroyo Grande CA, Torrance CA. DAN DOW [press conference]: We have evidence that we do believe there are other people that are not yet identified that have had some kind of a criminal act perpetrated on them by Mr. Flores. Classes were difficult, she was trying to fit in, and she missed her family. But every Sunday when she called her parents, they encouraged her to stick it out. JAMES MURPHY: What is the name of your father? Ermelinda Macarthur currently lives in Kenmore, WA; in the past Ermelinda has also lived in Long Beach CA, Arroyo Grande CA and Bothell WA. E Branch St, Arroyo Grande, CA Plus Addresses In Torrance, CA | San Pedro, CA Relatives Paul Ruben Flores Ermelinda Marie Flores Susan P Flores Paul F Gil View details Phone Numbers (805) nay - peek (805) nay - peek + 1 more View Details AGE 40s Ruben D Flores Santa Barbara, CA (Mesa) Aliases Ruben Flores-Diazchavez Ruben D Flores Espinoza Paul Flores may have wanted a fresh start in Southern California, but Chris Lambert says, he could not seem to break old habits. Flores admitted he promised another student, CherylAnderson, that he would make sure Smart made it back to her dorm room in Muir Hall safely from the party. They had become close friends despite their differences. Flores wasn't talking. What happens next? . No-no-no. His father Ruben Flores charged with being an accessory after the factwas found not guilty. Related to: Ruben R Flores, Ermelinda M Thomas, Paul R Flores, Rachel H Flores, Ruben Flores. It wasnt like some older guy or anything.. But a massive search did not happen until she'd been gone for more than a month. In October 2022, Paul. Around 2 a.m., party-goer Tim Davis told Smart that she could not spend the night passed out on the party houses front lawn because it was too cold. Im good. But was there evidence possibly placing Kristin Smart at his mother's home? I remember being home watching the news about Kristin Smart and there goes Paul, she recalled. I guess the answer is yes. JAMES MURPHY: Your husband have information as to where Kristin Smart's body is located? JAMES MURPHY: What is your present residence address? DAN DOW [press conference]: The allegation against Ruben is that he helped to conceal Kristen's body after the murder was committed. Jonathan Vigliotti: She had just 40 yards to go and yet she vanished. Jane said she kept this secret for yearseven from her husband. So had Margarita Campos, who lived in the next room in Muir Hall. Denise Pearce: She was becoming more and more alarmed, you know? And it all came back to me. My mom opened the door and she cries, Oh my God!. When they showed up, it was Paul Flores. They might have found evidence in those vehicles. At least one, since The Daily Beast began reporting, said she has been interviewed by the San Luis Obispo Sheriffs Office. But I've seen it. Empresa. When The Daily Beast tracked Flores down outside his home last month, he didnt mount much of a defense. In his mug shot, a black eye can faintly been seen. Denise Pearce: Kristin hasn't come home And we're not sure where she is We don't know anything. But one of those friends told police Flores already had the black eye when he arrived. They didn't look at the Flores family's vehicles. Any tidbit of information or recollection could make the difference in the recovery of our beloved Kristin., disappearance of another woman under almost identical circumstances: Kristin Smart. This is about the facts. But he entreated each woman who came forward to tell their story to The Daily Beast to reach out to his department. SHERIFF IAN PARKINSON [at press conference]: Forensic physical evidence was located. If you come near her again I will kill you!, His buddy pushed Paul real hard and he fell through a desk before he ran for his life.. And that's what I've been doing for a long, long time, along with a lot of other people. They got to the parking lot of an apartment complex. Flores father is now charged with helping cover up the homicide by burying Smarts body in his Arroyo Grande homes backyard. Susan Flores's backyard has been the focus of widespread speculation. He'd go anywhere. Often, Sarah would be at one party or another and there was Flores. And the complaint has some explosive claims about what led investigators to focus under Ruben's deck in the first place. They're known for being a really safe school.". Ruben Flores, 80, has been booked on an accessory charge and is being held on $250,000 bail. Like so many freshmen, Kristin struggled. Neither the ex-boyfriend nor Sarah saw Flores again until they read The Daily Beast story on Kristin Smarts disappearance, where Floress mugshot appeared. Ian Parkinson: Yes. Last month, authorities searched Ruben Flores' home in Arroyo Grande. Me, my sister, my cousinPaul has no limits, she said, requesting anonymity. In the crowd, taking it all in, was that podcaster, Chris Lambert. It's been a long night for the Smart family and San Luis Obispo County Sheriff's detectives as they continued to investigate an Arroyo Grande property belonging to Ruben Flores. / CBS News. You just don't talk, and you get away with it. Lambert also interviewed a woman who dated Flores until, she says, he became physically and verbally abusive. And he leaves her to walk up this walkway. Chris Lambert: I remember seeing it on the news it was something scary and they were talking about it pretty regularly. 2020 CBS Interactive Inc. All Rights Reserved. James Murphy: There's no way to get evidence back once you've lost it. He called his father at 9:47 a.m. on Sunday, May 26, 1996. Mike McHugh is the producer-editor. A single woman's earring. He promised the Smarts that solving Kristin's case would be a priority. That mother, Mary Lassiter, described it to Chris Lambert. Two days after Kristin Smart vanished, Paul Flores went to the Arroyo Grande Police Department because of an outstanding DUI warrant. "48 Hours" contributor Jonathan Vigliotti takes viewers inside the popular podcast and haunting case in "The Disappearance of Kristin Smart.". She left them only after he promised to take Kristin back to her dorm. Multiple attempts to reach Flores and his parents to comment on the new accusations were unsuccessful. In 1997 when Paul Flores was deposed for the civil suit, the only thing he would confirm on tape was his name. And they told Lambert they weren't surprised when they heard about Flores's connection to Kristin's disappearance. Facts will show law enforcement was aware that they did not have a case. I get into the bathroom and try to lock it and then the door gets kicked open., It was not more than five seconds before Sarah said Flores crashed opened the door and stood in the frame. And I was screaming. I dont like to talk about it to even him, she said. San Luis Obispo County. Chris Lambert: It was never marked as evidence apparently. But it's Susan Flores's concrete backyard that initially received a lot of attention. On Monday, deputies served a sealed search warrant at the home of Ruben Flores. The accusations didnt stop with classmates: Flores allegedly couldnt restrain himself around his own kin. Kristin did not have a purse, money, her I.D. But to fully understand Chris Lambert's contribution, you have to go back to the beginning. Paul had this look on his face, the relative said. At the time of Smart's disappearance, Flores was a 19-year-old food science major at Cal-Poly. They asked him not to use their names: PODCAST EPISODE 2 | WOMAN #1: Well his nickname was "Scary Paul.". She spotted an ad for a rental that a woman named Susan Flores had put in the local newspaper. Like what may have been discovered in March 2021 when investigators searched Ruben Flores' house using cadaver dogs and ground penetrating radar. A popular true-crime podcast, Your Own Backyard, revived public interest in Smarts disappearance. were in the room exactly where she had left them. At the time, they did not know about a missing college student. And these girls are inviting us out. The moment still haunts her. I believed him but he was probably cheating on me.. The fact is, there is a lot of sort of evidence. I say that because you will see, when you actually listen to what comes out, its not what it seems to be, Sanger said. Ken Blum is the editor. Lindsey Smart Stewart: Right. The detective noticed was Paul was nervous and his heart was beating out of his chest. He was required to wear an electronic ankle bracelet. At the time, she was a 19-year-old freshman at Cal Poly in San Luis Obispo, who'd grown up in Stockton, Calif. On the night of her disappearance, she was spotted at a house party, which she left with three people. Chris Lambert's podcast caught the attention of millions of listeners and sparked new interest in the decades-old unsolved case of Kristin Smart. Since Parkinson came on the scene, investigators have dug up hillsides; searched the homes and properties of all the Flores'; collected evidence; seized Paul Flores' computers; monitored his cell phone and text messages, and found new witnesses -- some with the help of Chris Lambert. Thats how we metI was walking and he pulled over and said to me Hey, Ill take you to school, she remembered Flores asking her. In 2002, after getting kicked out of Cal Poly, rejected by the Navy, and flipping burgers, Flores matriculated at LA Harbor Community College. She was pushing herself out of her comfort zone. Produced by Lisa Freed. DAN DOW [press conference]: But the allegation that he was committing or attempting to commit a rape when he killed her, is the basis for which we are able to file first-degree felony murder charges. The Smarts say they tried to file a missing person's report with the local police but were told it was too early, and the FBI told them Cal Poly police were in charge. When they were deposed by James Murphy, they also insisted their son was not involved. The National Read Across America Day takes place every year on March 2, Geisels birthday. Denise Pearce: The phone call never comes. Margarita Campos: I mean, she was gone. Since speaking with The Daily Beast, at least one of the women who has come forward saying Flores attacked her has been questioned by a detective working the Smart case. One of Kristins closest college friends, Steve Fleming, noticed that Paul Flores would linger around Smarts dorm hall even though he didnt live there. All four dogs, including one who was considered the best of the best, separately signaled an alert indicating the presence of human remain odors only in Flores room. Greg Fisher and Michelle Fanucci are the development producers. And while they did not rush to investigate Flores, Kristin's family says campus police were very quick to judge her. It was never like Hey you want to go hookup? He never made advances and he would just say Hi at school.. 1996 was before the #MeToo movement, Peuvrelle told the jury. I told her I didn't I didn't want to go. Paul owns a home in San Pedro, CA . View Details. She has not been charged with any crimes in connection with the case. Paul Flores lives in San Pedro, CA; previous city include Arroyo Grande CA. Personal details about Paul include: political affiliation is unknown; ethnicity is Hispanic American; and religious views are listed as Christian. They left me there and knock on my moms door really hard and then ran off, Jane, who is telling her story for first time, said. But remarkably, the same thing happened with three more dogs. Lambert says Kristin could not stand on her own, so fellow student Cheryl Anderson who was also at the party began helping her back to campus. Witnesses said she didnt smell like alcohol, but she quickly became so incapacitated that she passed out face-down on the houses front lawn. All of Kristin's personal belongings including her purse, her money, her I.D. Denise Pearce: To be almost there. Chris Lambert: They didn't bring cadaver dogs with them. That warrant allowed them to dig up the backyard, but deputies chose not to excavate. Smarts body has never been found. And then months and months later, they'd reach back out and say, can you get us in touch with this person again? Mary Lassiter says the earring she found in the driveway matched the necklace Kristin Smart is seen wearing on this billboard. Kristin Smart has been missing since 1996 and the San Luis County Obispo District Attorney allege she was killed during a rape. After they broke up, Laura did a little sleuthing and discovered her ex-boyfriend was accused in Smarts vanishing. Authorities made clear that they plan to use Flores' alleged predatory behavior against him. Chris Lambert: Kristin's father would come down and hike every trail he could find on the Central Coast. Lived In Dublin CA, King Of Prussia PA, Norristown PA. Related To Cooper Flores. Let's go." James Murphy: Having a black eye doesn't make you guilty of anything but if the person you were with disappeared from the planet that's physical evidence. Dave Minsky,. On April 13, 2021, almost 25 years after Kristin Smart went missing, longtime suspect Paul Flores, 44, was arrested at his home in San Pedro, California, and charged with murder. But Mary Lassiter says the earring matched the necklace Kristin is seen wearing on the billboard. D.A. I was lying down on my back. Nineteen-year-old Kristin Smart disappeared Memorial Day weekend of 1996. PODCAST EPISODE 1: Kristin broke down begging her mother to let her drop out and go somewhere else. I have this PTSD fear of someone kicking the door in.. I never realized its the same guy that harassed [Sarah], he said. Just days after taking over the investigation, the San Luis Obispo Sheriff's Office brought several dogs trained to detect human remains, to the Cal Poly dorms. I was throwing up and they were saying Oh this bitch! and This bitch better not throw up on me.. Lindsey Smart Stewart: She had traveled the world before she even made it to college. Paul Flores escorted Smart back to her dorm after an off-campus party. When asked about how he got the injury Flores told three different stories. Ruben Flores defense attorney is slated to deliver his opening statements when the two trials resume on Thursday in a Monterey County courtroom. I would hear many of my friends tell me Oh he grabbed my butt but I never believed them, Laura said. He gets his arm around her torso and her arm around his neck, and he's helping her walk. Authorities arrested Ruben Flores after San Luis Obispo County Sheriff's deputies served a search warrant at his Arroyo Grande home. That's when Denise Smart learned her daughter had not been seen all weekend, and all her belongings were still in her dorm room. Copyright 2023 CBS Interactive Inc. All rights reserved. The two girls walked to an area off campus where there were fraternities, sororities and residential housing for students. More critical evidence was seized when investigators used ground-penetratingly radar that found a grave where Smarts body was once buried in the Flores familys backyard, according to prosecutors. He's going to find her body, which is awful for a parent. Susan P Flores Age 71. He was staring at my face looking at me and he was enjoying himself.. The earring was turned over to the San Luis Obispo Sheriff's Office, but investigators will never know if it belonged to Kristin, because it was misplaced. When Anderson looked back one last time at Flores and Smart, she saw that he was leading Smart toward his dorm, Santa Lucia Hall, not Muir Hall, the prosecutor told the jury. SUSAN FLORES: [Long pause, grabs water bottle] Of course not. After seizing an old car, digging in the back yard and taking evidence San Luis Obispo County sheriff deputies concluded their search of an Arroyo Grande home related to the 1996 disappearance of Kristin Smart. The woman, whom well call Jane, believes she was roofied, raped, and discarded by Paul Flores and his nameless friend when she was a 15-year-old high-school sophomore in 1994. He never expected it would be a hit, but his podcast caught the attention of millions of listeners and sparked new interest in this decades-old unsolved case. We were standing by the washer and dryer and we were arguing and he shouted, No! and slapped my arm, Laura said. First, he told detectives that Smart was having difficulty walking on her own. In high school he was known as a loner. During a camping trip in Fresno, California, in the early 1990s, Floress female cousins playfully swiped and hid his wallet while walking en route to a liquor store to purchase slush puppies. I would turn around and he would be right there lurking, the woman, referred to here by a pseudonym, said. Sources tell us investigators discovered videos and photographs on Flores' computer showing him engaged in sexual activity with at least 10 different women, apparently in various states of consciousness. In April 2021, investigators finally put the pieces of the puzzle together and decided they had enough to charge the then-44-year-old Paul Flores with Kristin's murder, and his then-80-year-old father with being an accessory after the fact. Jonathan Vigliotti: What toll over time did this have on your parents? Chris Lambert: And that's when they're told that earring has been misplaced. That's been our goal. The living room had a TV and one sofa and the floor was white, she said. CBS News correspondent Jonathan Vigliotti tracked Flores down to try and get some answers. I was like Oh my God. BOE-A-2023-5092 Orden JUS/181/2023, de 21 de febrero, por la que se aprueba la relacin provisional de personas admitidas y excluidas en el proceso selectivo para acceso libre, al Cuerpo de Gestin Procesal y Administrativa de la Administracin de Justicia, convocado por Orden JUS/1254/2022, de 7 de diciembre. I'm going to go back to the dorms. An earring that appeared to match the necklace Kristin is wearing on the billboard. It might be helpful to the investigation.. The lawsuit claims they were moving Kristin's remains. Kristin Smart went missing from Cal Poly in 1996. But Paul Flores remained behind bars help without bail. If you use a windshield cover, you can at least forget about scrapping the ice off your windshield to save some time and hassle. He has not been charged in those incidents. Back then, Jane remembered Flores pulling up to her on multiple occasions behind the wheel of a green pickup truck. 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